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re: Fisher's team quit on him, Orgeron's team hasn't

Posted on 10/29/17 at 11:23 am to
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 11:23 am to
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I can't understand all the Pollyanna rose colored glasses the rant has put on regarding this upcoming game.


So naturally you call out an LSU fan who happens to be on an LSU message board and hoping his team does well and tell him to contact you after LSU is skulldrugged by Bama. Makes sense to me. Congrats on your fandom, you should be proud.

Yeah, but I really don't get it either. What kind of person would be on an LSU board hoping LSU wins a game against their biggest rival? Crazy huh !!!
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
17312 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 11:24 am to
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Who is trying to make this thread about history? The OP talking about the FSU team quitting on Jimbo is THIS YEAR. Not the past.



The OP's thread was about dodging a bullet by not hiring Jimbo. Thus, Jimbo's resume vs. O's resume is absolutely relevant, and there is no comparison. If Jimbo shouldn't have been hired because he is 2-5 this season, should O have been hired after his abysmal record at Ole Miss?

Alleva hired a coach with an overall losing record to replace the winningest coach in program history. It still amazes me to think about it.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
15276 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 11:24 am to
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Fisher's team quit on him, Orgeron's team hasn't


If we are to believe inside reports, O's team may have never started for him. The early games this season were very concerning. We looked as bad as I've seen us in years. Then we get reports of JA meeting with O and his co-ordinators and O agreeing to be hands off the offense. We hear Duke Riley spoke to the team and ripped them a new one for their attitudes. We hear of team leaders stepping up and taking charge and holding teammates accountable.

You know what is missing? Any word that the turnaround is connected to O. This team is playing for the legacy of LSU. Will this all be a part of Os development and serve to help establish him? We can only hope. My concern is this is despite of O and he's really not the head guy we need. If true, this will only be temporary and not sustainable. Time will tell.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
21997 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 11:29 am to
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think you have a very unhealthy obsession with me for some reason.



You don’t stand out to me in particular at all. I rarely look at a poster’s name unless it is clear shilling. Then I like to check out the registration date and, what do you know, they more often than not happen to be recent members.

How would you describe your interest in Jimbo Fisher? You and a few other guys (or possibly ladies, Facebook Mom types) seem to bring him up on LSU boards with an unhealthy frequency.


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If you are trying to imply that I am somehow associated with the Coach O regime, you are wrong.



Nah, probably just a river parish baw that has no interest in LSU other than cheering for one of your own.


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Yes, I registered in 2016. What's your question there since you post it over and over? i was a member of a paying site for 15 years. I got tired of paying for info I can get for free here.



It’s amazing how many guys just like you registered in the months before and after O was hired for whatever reason.

There seems to be a strange correlation between these new posters and their unabashed defense of O and criticism of other coaches that may have been in the running for the LSU job such as Fisher and Herman.


What other sites did you used to pay for? What was your handle there, since you aren’t active anymore.

Sorry times are tough and you had to tighten the old belt after 15 years.

Damn shame.
This post was edited on 10/29/17 at 11:30 am
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 11:36 am to
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You know what is missing? Any word that the turnaround is connected to O


No way. The only two LSU games Eaux even attended this season were the losses. When the cameras show him on the sideline that is a cardboard cutout. He is ONLY responsible for the losses. Everything else associated with the football team he is unaware of. He's on vacation in the Domincan Republic right now drinking margaritas and smoking Cuban cigars. He knows Duke has everything under control.

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My HOPE is this is despite of O and he's really not the head guy we need. If true, this will only be temporary and not sustainable


I fixed the small error you made in the above statement. If you are basing your decisions on rumors then you are reaching in order to make them true.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
15276 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:04 pm to
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I fixed the small error


Dude, stop being a middle-schooler. For whatever reason you rush to Os aid anytime anyone has an opinion about him that's less than "Oh my God O is my hero". And don't change my words.

It'd be much better for LSU if O is successful. Coaching searches are part luck, part right timing and part strategy. I'd hate to be back at that in a year or 2. Especially since the last one was such a farce.

How about you respond to opinions different from yours without all the juvenile rhetoric and have a decent conversation. If O is truly the coach we need, he doesn't require you to "prop" up his coaching resume- it'll speak for itself.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:08 pm to
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***TrueTigerTale edited "this early" into his post 10 hours later at 8 am

Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:32 pm to
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I was wrong


That's not news to most of us.

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For the 2017 signing class


You mean the one that saw LSU lose seven of the top ten guys from Louisiana from the first time since the early 1990ies?

And how many guys have left LSU under O and I thought O was some kind of great recruiter? If he is a great recruiter and he has been on staff since 2015, why are we short handed in the DL?

But never mind any of that. We got stooped by a mediocre, for years, Mississippi State and beaten by a shitty SBC. Neither one of those teams is more talented than LSU. All these excuses you O enablers come up with will never be able to excuse that BS coaching.

After this coming weekend, we all will know the value of the LSU combo of Alleva&O and the direction they are leading LSU.

We all hope that direction is up, up and away.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:35 pm to
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There seems to be a strange correlation between these new posters and their unabashed defense of O and criticism of other coaches that may have been in the running for the LSU job such as Fisher and Herman.


Strange correlation? You do know this is an LSU message board?

The strange thing here is the love for the coaches of other teams who told LSU to kiss their arse. One of them did it twice. Now he is 2-5 and threatening to fight fans that pay money to go watch the shite he puts on the field. Ha Ha Ha !!!

And this corner at 2-5 and dead last in his division we have Jimbo "the QB whisperer" Fisher.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:45 pm to
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The OP's thread was about dodging a bullet by not hiring Jimbo.


"may have" dodged a bullet. Certainly appears that way, time will tell us more. But the main topic was about which coaches players quit and which didn't. Stay on topic.


Imagine asking LSU fans this. Will it be Jimbo Fisher's no 3 ranked college football team, star players on offense and defense who quit on him, after the loss of their QB?


Or will it be Orgeron's players who quit after the loss of O-linemen and secondary being replaced by freshmen?


Which coach has the ability to turn things around quickly to save his teams's season, and which one doesn't? We certainly know that little tidbit don't we?
This post was edited on 10/29/17 at 1:17 pm
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 12:52 pm to
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Dave Aranda gets a pass and coach O is the worst thing to ever hit


How is that any different from what's been going on for years? The head coach is the head coach and he will always get the blame. He is making 3.5 million supposedly to run the whole program.

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Coach O was the only coach recruiting for LSU the last 4 years. So that's also all his fault.


No one has said that, but don't act like he showed up at LSU in 2017 and had no active role in recruiting since 2015.

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No one is making excuses for Coach O.


Yes, you are.

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His roster was in the dumps


No, it wasn't. You cant jump and shout over the Auburn and Florida wins and at the same time bitch about our roster being in the dumps.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 1:08 pm to
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For whatever reason you rush to Os aid anytime anyone has an opinion about him that's less than "Oh my God O is my hero". And don't change my words.


Yeah, I should be kissing Jimbo and Herman's arse, making excuses for them and knocking the LSU coach every chance I get. I mean the other two coaches are doing SO GREAT.

Am I bad LSU fan for not liking coaches who spurned LSU? Am I bad fan for being happy the are sucking and the LSU coach is doing better than they are?

Someone started a thread last night hating on Feleipe Franks - the QB who spurned LSU for UF. LSU fans hate the guy for doing that. But, for some reason a coach does it (one of them twice) and he gets nothing but love from the LSU fanbase.

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If O is truly the coach we need, he doesn't require you to "prop" up his coaching resume- it'll speak for itself.


What your saying is that no matter how much "so-called" LSU fans here try to shite on the LSU coach and make excuses for others, I shouldn't try to take up for LSU's coach and just stay quiet. Okay, makes sense.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
15276 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 1:16 pm to
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What your saying is that no matter how much "so-called" LSU fans here try to shite on the LSU coach and make excuses for others, I shouldn't try to take up for LSU's coach and just stay quiet. Okay, makes sense.


Once again you interrupt things like you want to. Objectivity...not your strong point.
Posted by axd9142a
Houston, Texas
Member since Jul 2016
87 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 1:32 pm to
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Fisher's team quit on him, Orgeron's team hasn't


Do not think Jimbo is a good coach, but in 8 seasons he has never lost less than 9 and he has won 3 SEC titles and a NC.

In 8 years, I certainly hope we are not saddled with an AD that offered a contract with a $12 million buyout for a coach that went 3-21 in our division before being hired by LSU.

Oh if Eaux coaches 8 season, more than one might be a losing season.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 1:39 pm to
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You mean the one that saw LSU lose seven of the top ten guys from Louisiana from the first time since the early 1990ies?


Yep, the same one that saw LSU sign the #1 safety and #1 inside LB in the nation. The one that finished ranked #7 on 24/7 and ESPN. The one that saw the #1 ILB prospect decommit from Oklahoma to come to LSU. The one that convinced the #4 WDE to spurn this board's beloved gay guy to attend LSU. The one that has seen 20 true freshmen play for the LSU team this year with 8 starting at different times. Yeah, that's the one.

Not bad for a HC who had been on the job for less than 3 months !!!

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And how many guys have left LSU under O and I thought O was some kind of great recruiter?


He recruited all the O-line that have left?

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If he is a great recruiter and he has been on staff since 2015, why are we short handed in the DL?


Injury is the only reason. See my post on this page or the page before. Eaux was at LSU 3 weeks when the 2015 class was signed. He was the RC for less than 3 weeks for the 2016 class and it was still a very good one.

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But never mind any of that. We got stooped by a mediocre, for years, Mississippi State and beaten by a shitty SBC. Neither one of those teams is more talented than LSU. All these excuses you O enablers come up with will never be able to excuse that BS coaching.


Still has a MUCH better record than Jimbo Fisher with much more impressive wins. I can live with it. First year HC, first year OC, first year WR coach, first year RB coach, playing so many freshmen with many of them starting. Not happy about the losses but am impressed with what I have seen since. Jimbo, not so much.

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After this coming weekend, we all will know the value of the LSU combo of Alleva&O and the direction they are leading LSU.


Confucius?

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We all hope that direction is up, up and away.


Sure we do, why else would WE bash him every chance we get - including his recruiting class after being on the job less than three months?
This post was edited on 10/29/17 at 2:02 pm
Posted by cra_cra
Member since Nov 2016
1743 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:19 pm to
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Come back to me next week after the Tigs are skulldrugged at Bama



And who hasn't been skull drugged by BAMA in the last 4-5 years that would have come to LSU to coach without all of the fans having to donate a kidney?

I'm anxiously awaiting your answer.
Posted by cra_cra
Member since Nov 2016
1743 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:24 pm to
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You know what is missing? Any word that the turnaround is connected to O. This team is playing for the legacy of LSU. Will this all be a part of Os development and serve to help establish him? We can only hope. My concern is this is despite of O and he's really not the head guy we need. If true, this will only be temporary and not sustainable. Time will tell.



It's astonishing to me that anything bad that happens is a result of Coach O.

However, anything GOOD that happens, is attributed to someone else.

Utter bullshite
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:51 pm to
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Not bad for a HC who had been on the job for less than 3 months !!!


Yeah, lets forget he was on the LSU staff since 2015 and recruiting all that time. Losing 70% of the top ten players is NOT a good sign when a coach has been at a school since 2015.

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Injury


Excuse

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Still has a MUCH better record than Jimbo Fisher




O is the coach at LSU and responsible for the loss to a SBC team, but since you want to bring Jimbo up, did he get embarrassed by a fricking SBC team?

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class after being on the job less than three months?


He has been recruiting for LSU since 2015. All you got is excuses and more excuses. Put out as many as you want, but nothing excuses O for shitting in his bed at Mississippi State and at home against a fricking mediocre SBC team.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:54 pm to
LSU fans quick to come to the defense of Jimbo Fisher who shite the bed, lost his team, then goes full retard on the Fla. State fan base.

All coach O did was regroup his team refocus their effort and saved LSU's season.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71872 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:59 pm to
Francois is actually very good...
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