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re: Finebaum on First Take
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:00 pm to sunnydaze
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:00 pm to sunnydaze
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The question is how is a QB for 2 years a temporary fix? The most you’re gonna get out of a qb is 3 years When he’s gone we have Brennan for 2 years. Is that also a temporary fix?
The temporary fix is getting a QB someone else developed.
The long term fix is consistently developing your own QBs
How fricking hard is this to understand
If Brennan develops and is a good QB then all of a sudden we have had a good QB for 4 years, and another 2 years to develop the next guy.
This isn’t hard to understand.
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:01 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:he sucked with Jason Campbell. He leaves and al borges turns him into a real good qb during an undefeated season
Slinger has developed a few QB's in his career. Eric Zeier being the most well known. He also did a good job with the QB's at La Tech and at A&M.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:05 pm to Paddyshack
quote:
Stephen A
Stopped reading after this.
Stephen A Is horrible and should be dropped from 104.5
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:07 pm to Paddyshack
quote:I mean, all of this is spot on.
Stephen A asked him what was going on with LSU and how far could they go with a QB completing 49%?
Paul's response was "not very far". And that poor QB play was Miles' undoing, to be determined for Orgeron.
Burrow has actually been fine IMO with what he's had to work with, but the passing game as a whole has not been good, and we will not go very far if it doesn't improve, that's obvious.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:08 pm to Goldrush25
quote:
I mean he is. We have one more year of Burrow and then after that we're back at square one.
Using that logic, every college QB is a temporary fix.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:14 pm to Paddyshack
quote:what qb in college isn't
. Also called Burrow a "temporary fix"
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:17 pm to airfernando
The ones that are recruited high school and developed by the coach at said school and not gotten as a grad transfer that was recruited and developed by a previous coaching staff. This really isn't a difficult concept.
Eta: Developed for 3 years at another school. It's a temporary fix because we didn't have a capable QB on the team that was ready to play and win games.
Eta: Developed for 3 years at another school. It's a temporary fix because we didn't have a capable QB on the team that was ready to play and win games.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:18 pm to Adajax
quote:
Using that logic, every college QB is a temporary fix.
Well my logic is also accounting for the fact that Burrow was not organic to LSU, he was brought here as a transfer. That's not something that can be sustained with good results. We have to be able to develop our own QBs.
I feel like people are going out of their way to miss the point because of who said it (Finebaum). It's a perfectly valid point.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:20 pm to airfernando
quote:
Also called Burrow a "temporary fix"
what qb in college isn't
Not sure why this is so hard to grasp.
If you're just going to keep relying on transfers, stop recruiting QB's. You're obviously not doing it right.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:21 pm to Paddyshack
You can't cherry-pick stats like that to determine how good a player is. Especially at a position as dynamic as quarterback.
PFF had Joe burrow dead last in the SEC for quarterbacks however, when they adjusted for throwaways, dropped passes that were on target and passes while being hit, he was ranked I think #2 or #3 in the SEC.
So in other words, if he was working with a better offensive coordinator who comes up with a better scheme, had receivers that would actually catch the ball and an Oline that would keep him clean and give him time to go through his progressions, then he could possibly be the best quarterback in the SEC.
You don't become Mr. High School Football in a state as populous and obsessed with football as the state of Ohio, by accident.
PFF had Joe burrow dead last in the SEC for quarterbacks however, when they adjusted for throwaways, dropped passes that were on target and passes while being hit, he was ranked I think #2 or #3 in the SEC.
So in other words, if he was working with a better offensive coordinator who comes up with a better scheme, had receivers that would actually catch the ball and an Oline that would keep him clean and give him time to go through his progressions, then he could possibly be the best quarterback in the SEC.
You don't become Mr. High School Football in a state as populous and obsessed with football as the state of Ohio, by accident.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:23 pm to sicboy
Stop upvoting your own posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:24 pm to sunnydaze
have never done this 
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:25 pm to sunnydaze
It means no playoffs. So yea. Not far enough.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:26 pm to TigerLunatik
quote:2 years is probably an average amount of time for a strter, so it kinda is a difficult concept.
The ones that are recruited high school and developed by the coach at said school and not gotten as a grad transfer that was recruited and developed by a previous coaching staff. This really isn't a difficult concept.
4 years starters are pretty rare. 3 years starters aren't the norm. So I'm not sure how a 2 year starter is considered a temporary fix.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:30 pm to Paddyshack
Why y'all Watch the mfer. Never watch his big ear bias
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:31 pm to Paddyshack
Every QB anywhere is a temporary fix. Just like every right tackle.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:31 pm to shel311
As I said, again. He wasn't developed by this coaching staff. Years starting is completely irrelevant.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:32 pm to TigerLunatik
lunatic your handle fits you!
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:34 pm to Goldrush25
The QB pipeline is in far better shape. Brennan. Peter Parrish 2019 and the pntchatoola kid got 2020.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:35 pm to shel311
quote:
So I'm not sure how a 2 year starter is considered a temporary fix.
I think what people are saying is it isn't the amount of time the QB plays. Grabbing a transfer QB is not a sustainable, it's a temporary fix to the problem. The only way to have sustainable success is to be able to develop QBs in your system.
ETA: which in defense of the current staff, their ability to do so has yet to proven or disproven
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 12:38 pm
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