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re: Fall Baseball Stats through 10 Scrimmages

Posted on 10/24/22 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 2:34 pm to
my bad didnt see them. appreciatte it.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 2:36 pm to
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Is Guidry the opening day SS with Merrifield at 2B? Seems like Thompson is getting a strong push from these guys.

Before fall I thought Guidry might beat out Thompson at SS but Thompson would start at 2B. Now I’m not so sure.




You cant take anything from this really right now in terms of who starts down the road.
Posted by DRock88
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 2:37 pm to
You have Dugas and Nippolt in the conversation, too.

I'd say Thompson and Guidry in a close race for SS, with Guidry maybe a hair ahead so far. They're also both battling for 2B, but Dugas is a hair ahead there.

If Thompson and Guidry are still tight on opening day, I'm sure the vet will get the nod but the plan will be to ease Guidry in to take over as the season progresses. I think Dugas starts at 2B, and sticks.

ETA: I know Merrifield has had a good fall, but he got completely owned by SEC pitching last season. If he plays, it will be at 2B bc Dugas faded or 3B bc Tanks can't catch at all. I just don't see Jay running Merrifield out there unless several other things fail.
This post was edited on 10/24/22 at 2:39 pm
Posted by BayTiger13
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 3:00 pm to
One thing to remember in all this is how Jay looks at Thompson. Jay likes him regardless of what a lot of people think. He consistently comments how Thompson is one of the most clutch hitters on the team and seems to come through when the big hit is needed. He has said that multiple interviews. I don't think stats in the fall will make a difference in the starting SS spot. It is Thompson's to lose and I think Guidry will have to be a lot better to take the SS position in the spring.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 3:02 pm to
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One thing to remember in all this is how Jay looks at Thompson. Jay likes him regardless of what a lot of people think. He consistently comments how Thompson is one of the most clutch hitters on the team and seems to come through when the big hit is needed. He has said that multiple interviews. I don't think stats in the fall will make a difference in the starting SS spot. It is Thompson's to lose and I think Guidry will have to be a lot better to take the SS position in the spring.



Also to note is Thompson only has 1 error by my count in the 10 scrimmages so far so his defense seems to have carried into the fall from his ending well last season so far.

He has started/played SS almost exclusively too, a few innings at 2B.
This post was edited on 10/24/22 at 3:05 pm
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 3:06 pm to
LSUBaseballData
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TOP TRACKMAN EXIT SPEEDS FROM TODAY'S SCRIMMAGE:

Tommy White 110.9 mph
Tommy White 109.3 mph
Dylan Crews 107.6 mph
Jared Jones 107.0 mph
Tre Morgan 106.1 mph
Brayden Jobert 105.8 mph
Gavin Dugas 105.2 mph
Brayden Jobert 103.9 mph
Josh Pearson 103.5 mph
Brady Neal 103.2 mph
Posted by DRock88
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 3:09 pm to
I get it. We can't just keep talking about his toughness and clutchness and talent if it's not helping win baseball games consistently. By contrast, Thompson was actually so bad on defense at the start of the season that he cost us baseball games, cost us pitches with guys that didn't need to be taxed.

Again, I get it. And I hope somebody steps up at SS, be it Thompson or someone else, but we can't keep talking about Thompson's potential in year 3. It's time to be that guy consistently or use somebody else. We didn't have anybody else last year.
This post was edited on 10/24/22 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Rust
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 3:09 pm to
Skenes- 98mph 17K
Floyd- 96mph 15K
Taylor- 98mph 14K



Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

Before fall I thought Guidry might beat out Thompson at SS but Thompson would start at 2B. Now I’m not so sure.


it may still happen, but guidry is going to have to make a lot of improvement by spring to pass up thompson. he could and seems to be more comfortable each time out, but think its gonna take a ton to unseat thompson.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

I get it. We can't just keep talking about his toughness and clutchness and talent if it's not helping win baseball games consistently. By contrast, Thompson was actually so bad on defense at the start of the season that he cost us baseball games, cost us pitches with guys that didn't need to be taxed.

Again, I get it. And I hope somebody steps up at SS, be it Thompson or someone else, but we can't keep talking about Thompson's potential in year 3. It's time to be that guy consistently or use somebody else. We didn't have anybody else last year.




at the end of the year he was helping win games though. Thompson got better and better as the year went on.

Now guidry is very very talented and could potentially take it by the end of the year but its not going to be easy.
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 3:18 pm to
I don't think I recall saying, "Good thing we have Jordan Thompson or else we would've lost that game." I do agree that he settled down as the season progressed, and and he has gotten better season over season, too. I guess I just don't see him as entrenched as what most do. Again, I hope whoever is the SS gets the job done.

ETA: And to the point about Jay loving him, he loved him so much he was bringing in White, Pineda, Young, and asked Dugas to come back to play infield with Guidry also signed.
This post was edited on 10/24/22 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Datsmoneydude
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 3:35 pm to
Jordan Thompson is the starting short stop.
Posted by N2daWild
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 3:49 pm to
Of course there is real possibility of both playing with the loser of the SS position moving to 2b. If they both play I would think the better glove goes to SS and that might be Guidry but too early to say.
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 3:51 pm to
For sure. Had to address that SS was an issue at times and that the depth was nothing. More options incase what he thinks of Thompson doesn't come to fruition.

I'm really unsure of my opinion of him as of now. I have been for him since he got to campus thinking the potential is there for sure for him to be a really good player. As you said in one of your other posts though, can't continue to say he has the potential to do this and that when he doesn't reach that potential coming into year 3. Still think it is his spot to start the season and he will have to do a pretty poor job to lose it. If he is making an error or 2 each weekend and hitting .250 then I don't think you would have a choice but to explore the other options you have this season. Time will tell.
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 4:14 pm to
I'm equally unsure. I see what Jay sees, but it just hasn't really done anything more than flashed at times. Big power, but you only see it a handful of times per season. Looks real good going the other way, at times, but other times just waves at the outside half of the zone. Heady player most of the time but, at times, you wonder if he's ever played baseball before when it comes to pitch selection, movements, just general decision making. Big arm, but struggles with making the throw so it doesn't really even matter. Moves like a cat at SS but kicks balls right at him.

I think Thompson was in the lead, after missing on Pineda and Young. I don't think he's in the lead anymore. Guidry may have to separate some more for Jay to feel comfortable with a freshman there, but Thompson is behind right now.

But, yes, it is still very early.
This post was edited on 10/24/22 at 4:17 pm
Posted by ScubaTiger
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 4:33 pm to
Errors by position:
Pitcher-Cooper 1, Moffet 1
1st Morgan 1, Frey 2
2nd Dugas 1 Nippolt 1
3rd Merrifield 2, White 1
SS Thompson 1
RF Jobert 1, Stevenson 1
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
10652 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 4:38 pm to
Something I've loosely been following, too, is what combinations show up most. I can't say for certain, but I believe Morgan, Dugas, Guidry, and White have been more consistent than any other infield combo. Whether that means anything, who knows. Last year, Jay tried to keep the teams balanced. It's looked different this year. He seems to be looking at combinations, and hitter/pitcher matchups to make sure they all see everybody.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87962 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 4:55 pm to
He starts with separating the good players as best he can and as the fall progresses starts putting Team A vs A pitchers and Team B vs B pitchers. The scrimmages right before the end of the fall should give us an idea of what Jay is thinking. But he generally tries to keep things even because there’s always something on the line with his scoring system.

The spring is totally different. There is no time to balance things. He’s going to try and put his team together.
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
10652 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 5:03 pm to
You don't have to worry about keeping it even when the drop off at most positions is thin. Ruddell is a B guy, leading everyone in hitting. In the middle infield and behind the plate, they each have some kind of trade off whether they are A or B that could make them an A guy. I think it's about seeing what fits best now. And, I think alot of combinations will fit, especially when considering R/L combinations, Skenes on the bump or at DH, etc.
Posted by subidc
CharlestonSC
Member since Nov 2019
3311 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 5:11 pm to
Is anyone concerned with Crews? I know he is a beast and will likely be fine. He didn’t hit that well in the summer and is not hitting all that great in the fall. Don’t hate but it’s in the back of my mind.
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