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re: Fake Punt and Long Passes late in the Chick-Fil-A Bowl

Posted on 1/5/09 at 6:36 am to
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 1/5/09 at 6:36 am to
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To hell with Georgia (maybe we can agree on that).


+1
Posted by LSUBASEBALL06
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
3407 posts
Posted on 1/5/09 at 7:41 am to
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But when other teams do this, they are trying to run up the score



So scoring 3 points in the 2nd half is considered running up the score? Interesting.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37956 posts
Posted on 1/5/09 at 8:33 am to
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So scoring 3 points in the 2nd half is considered running up the score? Interesting


actually should have put "trying" to run up the score and with that caveat, yes.
Posted by Sammich
Member since Apr 2004
9375 posts
Posted on 1/5/09 at 8:38 am to
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actually should have put "trying" to run up the score and with that caveat, yes.


Had Miles wanted to run up the score he would have done so.
Posted by nycajun
Nothin' could be finer.....
Member since Dec 2004
18183 posts
Posted on 1/5/09 at 8:39 am to
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actually should have put "trying" to run up the score and with that caveat, yes.


I don't think that there is much evidence that Les and company were trying to run it up. Do you seriously think that the GT defense that gave up 35 in the first half suddenly found themselves and held us scoreless in the second half? And the worst face (from LSU's point of view) that you can put on the fake punt is that the LSU defense had a shutout going (no TDs by the vaunted GT offense) and the best way to sustain that was to keep their offense on the bench. The fake wasn't to get a score. It was to help protect a terrific effort by the defense.
This post was edited on 1/5/09 at 9:05 am
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37001 posts
Posted on 1/5/09 at 8:55 am to
only thing i have to say about the whole thing is

usc beats a team by 70 and that shows how great they are

we beat a team by 35 and are "running up the score"

Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
69129 posts
Posted on 1/5/09 at 9:13 am to
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actually should have put "trying" to run up the score and with that caveat, yes.


I guess by your logic, GTech was also trying to run up the score. What a bunch of classless jerks.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37956 posts
Posted on 1/5/09 at 9:14 am to
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don't think that there is much evidence that Les and company were trying to run it up. Do you seriously think that the GT defense that gave up 35 in the first half suddenly found themselves and held us scoreless in the second half? And the worst face (from LSU's point of view) that you can put on the fake punt is that the LSU defense had a shutout going (no TDs by the vaunted GT offense) and the best way to sustain that was to keep their offense on the bench. The fake wasn't to get a score. It was to help protect a terrific effort by the defense.


I don't think Miles was trying to run up the score.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37956 posts
Posted on 1/5/09 at 9:19 am to
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only thing i have to say about the whole thing is usc beats a team by 70 and that shows how great they are we beat a team by 35 and are "running up the score"


There ya go. Many, many, but mot all, on this site assumed USC was trying to run up the score when they scored 69 etc, without knowing what happenen in the game. In one game, USC ran the ball the entire second half, virtually up the gut the entire time. In the other game, they threw one pass the entire second half and that was on a broken play with the pass going to a back behind the line of scrimmage. Folks were so quick to say Petey was trying to run up the score, which of course he was not. However, when Miles calls fake punts and long passes late in the game, foks are just as quick to say he was NOT trying to run up the score.

But again, I am not saying Miles was trying to runup the score. I am just pointing out the obvious inconsistencies that so many here fail to see.
This post was edited on 1/5/09 at 9:35 am
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37956 posts
Posted on 1/5/09 at 9:20 am to
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guess by your logic, GTech was also trying to run up the score.


Did not say or imply that Miles was trying to run up the score.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
69129 posts
Posted on 1/5/09 at 9:24 am to
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Did not say or imply that Miles was trying to run up the score.


My bad, I made that assumption based of your comment

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But when other teams do this, they are trying to run up the score


Does this mean you don't think any team runs up the score?
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37956 posts
Posted on 1/5/09 at 9:33 am to
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Does this mean you don't think any team runs up the score?


No. IMO, some surely do. Not all, maybe not most.
Posted by Bad Cat
Painted Post, NY
Member since Jan 2004
12091 posts
Posted on 1/5/09 at 9:44 am to
USC can't help but run up the score with the talent level advantage they have in the PAC-10.

With 5 and 4 star recruits waiting their turn on the bench, there is no holding them back when they get their chance on the field.

However, I am not sure how often USC pulls their starting QB to keep the score down. Can anyone give examples of Petey pulling the star QB late in a game?
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37956 posts
Posted on 1/5/09 at 9:46 am to
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However, I am not sure how often USC pulls their starting QB to keep the score down. Can anyone give examples of Petey pulling the star QB late in a game?


Washington, Washington State, with one in the very early 3rd quarter, the other in the 3rd as well. In other games back-ups saw PT as well

However, the back-up QB's are 5 and 4 stars as well. Even with Sanchez was in those games in the 2nd half, they ran the ball up the gut.
This post was edited on 1/5/09 at 9:50 am
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
24471 posts
Posted on 1/5/09 at 10:29 am to
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USC can't help but run up the score with the talent level advantage they have in the PAC-10.


Yes. They are so fantastic, they can't help it. All they have to do is think touchdown and they score!
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37956 posts
Posted on 1/5/09 at 10:39 am to
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Yes. They are so fantastic, they can't help it. All they have to do is think touchdown and they score!


I think he means with 5* backs for example, a run up the gut likely results in more yards than other team's back-ups. They are not going to lie down. ABout all they can do is run. They are certainly not going to stop just short of the goal line and fall down.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56649 posts
Posted on 1/5/09 at 10:42 am to
good god, message boards blow shite out of proportion

they put in a fake punt and worked on it for weeks

miles thought he may need it at some point in a close game

the kids liked it, game wasn't in doubt...hell, have fun

in a bowl game, things are different

the whole bowl experience is supposed to be fun

the players and staff was getting "itchy" for the play call, so he let it go. it was really nothing more
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37956 posts
Posted on 1/5/09 at 10:49 am to
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the players and staff was getting "itchy" for the play call, so he let it go. it was really nothing more


I agree. I did not have a problem with it.
Posted by Oily Tigah
City of Surup
Member since May 2007
2373 posts
Posted on 1/5/09 at 12:35 pm to
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LSU is Herbsteit's DADDY !


Fixed it for ya!
Posted by Oily Tigah
City of Surup
Member since May 2007
2373 posts
Posted on 1/5/09 at 12:36 pm to
In the last 3 bowl games we have played, when we are up 3+ TD's late in the game, we have pulled a fake kick of some sort out of the play book. Anyone who was not expecting that, did not do their homework.
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