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re: Excellent Greedy Williams Article

Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by TheTexasTiger7
Dallas - Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:02 pm to
Actually his draft status wasn’t secured. Do you realize how many times players stocks go up and down in an entire season? What if Greedy got hurt this year, was suspended, or just straight up played bad, he’s definitley a Top Ten pick because of last year???
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:03 pm to
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mailing it in the last few games

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Greedy is a selfish douche in my book.

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playing not to get hurt at A&M and losing the game. The dude has been mailing it in since the Bama game.

I'm honestly having trouble determining if this is sarcasm, making fun of people who say shite like this or if you're being serious. For God's sake I hope it's the former.
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 2:05 pm
Posted by TheTexasTiger7
Dallas - Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
9387 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:06 pm to
You’re such a douche and you’re not even a real fan. First of all your post became retarded when you mentioned Fournette. He had dealt with lingering injuries that entire season, he wanted to play, but that decision clearly wouldn’t have been in his best interest to play in that bowl game. Take your head out of your arse and realize the human aspect and not just the football part of it. Playing not to get hurt in the A&M game? What play did you see that on, his bullshite PI? You’re an a-hole, and he was amazing here for 2 years.
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
2195 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:06 pm to
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he’s definitley a Top Ten pick because of last year???


Did you not read anything during the summer where he was already being talked about as a top 10 pick. Based on that report, he should not have played the entire season and risk his signing bonus
Posted by TheTexasTiger7
Dallas - Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
9387 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:08 pm to
Yes of course he was considered a top Ten pick, acctually probably a top 5 pick. If he takes the year off is he drafted in the Top 10? You don’t have a “secured draft spot” an entire season out unless you are some Prodigy QB to something. Like I said a lot can happen In an entire season. What if his play was god awful this year?
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44562 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:12 pm to
I never had a big issue with him sitting out, and I guess it's cool to get a bit more insight into Greedy's background and family situation.

but that article kinda sucked.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22316 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:15 pm to
Especially since it could have been written in one sentence.

Greedy Williams is likely academically ineligible.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37093 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:16 pm to
I had a feeling he was going to have had a background like this. When you are poor and you are the ticket for your entire family, it takes on a whole different meaning.

I just hope, really, really, really hope, that he picks a great agent and will be about to find people who will give him solid business advice. I don't recall any instances of him being a discipline problem, so I don't expect him to go all hood rat on us. But... when that money starts rolling in, there are going to be a lot of opportunities for bad influences, not to mention, all types of shysters trying to market all sorts of half-baked schemes to him. It doesn't sound like the family has a lot of background to help him here. Going to be real important that he finds mentors to work with him.

Side note: What's Devin's background? I know he has a horse... does he come from a wealthier / more traditional family?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:28 pm to
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Perspective.

hmmmm

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Having a child

intentionally, as an unemployed college student isn't the smartest thing to do, I wonder what the perspective of this place would be if he weren't an All-American LSU football player, good for him that he's in a position to make some life changing money, and this is a business decision I realize, but this is not some noble, gut wrenchingly difficult path he's chosen, he was born with God given physical attributes, and has been steered along the path of least resistance to get paid for them, that's why kids in his shoes go to places like LSU, spotlight and stepping stone to payday, not much to see here

ETA: best wishes for him, hope he has a great career
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 2:30 pm
Posted by MojoGuyPan
Intercession City, Florida
Member since Jun 2018
2797 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:32 pm to
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You’re such a douche and you’re not even a real fan. First of all your post became retarded when you mentioned Fournette. He had dealt with lingering injuries that entire season, he wanted to play, but that decision clearly wouldn’t have been in his best interest to play in that bowl game.


I'm a fan of the team, not a fan of the selfish behavior of players in recent years. Greedy has no love for the game. He's not a competitor.

He has talent and is a really good DB but is only in it for the money. Very easy to draw parallels between him and Jamarcus Russell. Greedy will get that signing bonus and then just coast, goldbrick. That's his attitude, his moral makeup. Not a competitor. This guy is no Ronnie Lott.

Fournette, certainly looked healthy against Ole Miss with that "high ankle sprain". Fournette had a lingering injury like Urban Meyer has a magical squirting cyst in his brain.

That high ankle sprain bs before the season was just a pretext to rest him during games and give him time off during the season to be fresh for the combine. Fournette negotiated that with Miles. Fact.
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 2:35 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:34 pm to
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hope, that he picks a great agent

sounds like he's had one for a while, kids from Allendale don't normally attend CBA
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:37 pm to
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MojoGuyPan


Oh wow you're actually being serious. There are just too many layers of stupid to peel back in your post. Hopefully someone else will do it.
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 2:40 pm
Posted by TheTexasTiger7
Dallas - Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
9387 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:55 pm to
You sound like a conspiracy theorist. Where do you get your facts from? Lol.
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 2:56 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56491 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 3:12 pm to
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Bowl games are stupid. Make it a 16 team playoff which would mean every game is important.



If it doesn't make sense to play in the bowl game why would it make sense to play in the playoff?
Posted by MojoGuyPan
Intercession City, Florida
Member since Jun 2018
2797 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 3:14 pm to
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You sound like a conspiracy theorist. Where do you get your facts from?


I'm here in Florida. When Jax was selecting him, it was on the street almost immediately. With the concern over the injury being real, his agent and Jaguar staff let out that the injury was not an actual injury and there was no concern over selecting him that high.

Why give Greedy a pass? I'm sure there are a number of other players who might go in the 2nd to 4th rounds. It might not be 20MM but 4 or 500k is a lot to a 20year old single dad too. Why should they risk not getting selected due to an injury? With your way of thinking these games shouldn't be played. Why schedule the real meaningless games like ULL or Troy. Why not reduce the number of games during the regular season and play the bowl game.

Greedy gave the Tigers a year and a half of effort that is deplorable.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56491 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 3:16 pm to
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He isn't going to risk playing in an ultimately meaningless game, when he has millions waiting for him in just a few months.


All games are meaningless in that context.

This bowl game is the most important game of the year. Granted, it's not as important as a playoff game, but it's certainly more meaningful than the A&M game or the Rice game.

The solution to this is financial. You have to provide insurance at a level that makes the risk worth it.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20388 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 3:17 pm to
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secured top 10 draft status


He had that before the start of the season. Again if he was scared of getting hurt, he would have sat out the entire season
Arden Key says hi...

Greedy did what he needed to do. At this point, the bowl game is for LSU and next year, not for the individual players.
It sounds terrible in that wording that Greedy would skip, but it shouldn't. He's helped the program, he's done everything he could to help us going forward (he perpetuated the DBU lineage). He's now making a personal career decision. Can't fault him for that.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56491 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 3:20 pm to
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He made it through the season, secured top 10 draft status. Sure, it's unlikely he gets injured, but why even take a .01% chance at this point.



...for the same reason he played in the A&M game, presumably. That game, and the Rice game were absolutely meaningless. This game is waaaay more important.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70909 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 3:23 pm to
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Problem is the logic behind this decision terribly flawed. There's no greater chance of getting hurt in a bowl game than there is any other game. If he anything he should have sat out the entire season



this makes no sense. He is projected top 5 pick because of how he played in the regular season. Had he skipped the season entirely, that would not be the case.

His play in this bowl game wouldn't affect his draft position one way or another. He now has a body of work worthy of being one of the top picks in the draft.

Even a 1% chance of getting injured in the bowl game is too much. Particularly for a meaningless bowl game.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70909 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 3:24 pm to
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secured top 10 draft status
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He had that before the start of the season.


there is absolutely no chance in hell he goes top 10 without his play this year. What a dumbass post.
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