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Posted on 12/5/18 at 4:04 pm to
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16919 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 4:04 pm to
There's a logical case of self-interest to skipping the bowl game to mitigate the unlikely instance of injury impacting his draft status. The mentioning of his daughter and his childhood as somehow lending some moral perspective to the decision is nothing more than window dressing though.
Posted by toothfxr92
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2007
322 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 4:14 pm to
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The tax payers of this state have paid for him to perform in Baton Rouge. 



Sport Sponsorship and Scholarship Funds
Distributed to Division I schools to help fund NCAA sports and provide scholarships for college athletes

Big-time college sports departments are making more money than ever before, thanks to skyrocketing television contracts, endorsement and licensing deals, and big-spending donors. 

most money for athletic scholarships comes directly from the schools' athletic departments. Universities budget a certain amount of money for attracting top athletes, and athletic grants exist for all kinds of sports, not just basketball and football.
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 4:57 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70916 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 4:20 pm to
I opted to just laugh at that statement instead of educating him.

“I pay my taxes damnit!”
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 4:21 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 4:27 pm to
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He had that before the start of the season. Again if he was scared of getting hurt, he would have sat out the entire season 


Ive yet to see a pre season 2019 mock draft that had AW top 10 pick like DWhite.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56529 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 4:27 pm to
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And let's be clear, not all bowl games are meaningless.



But a NY6 bowl is? What bowl games would not be worthless?

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but the good news is Greedy or no Greedy, LSU still gets 4M payout for just making the bowl.



LSU is going to lose money on this bowl.

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So thank you to Greedy Williams for performing well enough all season to get us to the Fiesta Bowl.



Certainly. There needs to be a financial solution to this problem. Greedy's (and other high draft pick's) risk needs to be mitigated to a satisfactory degree.

These games are certainly not meaningless. In fact, if you minimize the importance of bowl games college football will take a large hit.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 4:28 pm to
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The tax payers of this state have paid for him to perform in Baton Rouge. 





I read this as," dance for me boy".
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56529 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 4:30 pm to
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I agree that playing for a championship is more meaningful. But, except for that, this is the biggest game of the year.


this is asinine.


Asinine is thinking the Arkansas game was bigger than a NY6 bowl. Both are opinions, but the LARGE majority of people would tell you the NY6 bowl game is much, much more important.
Posted by Meldedee
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
3318 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 4:33 pm to
Thanks, Greedy, for the blood, sweat and tears you gave your team. You left if all on the field. Wrap that baby girl up! They grow up fast. No one should be upset that you are giving the job of Daddy the love and dedication you gave LSU.

GEAUX GREEDY! Do great things!
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 4:52 pm to
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at training camp after he's drafted


Moot point. He'll have his cash by then.

No one should have ill will towards this kid. It's ok to be disappointed that we won't see him again but it's his life and his future.

No LSU fan, alumni or booster is going to reimburse his losses should he get injured. Further, if anyone here were offered that much cash to abandon their current "team" or organization, they would make the same decision in a New York minute.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10326 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 4:52 pm to
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That’s a guy stepping up and doing what he needs to for his family. Have nothing but respect for that decision


I respect his decision too. But let's not kid ourselves. Even people that don't like his decision have to admit it is a smart decision. But to say he's making the decision to support his family is just a rationalization for what is bascially a selfish decision. And again, I'm not saying that he's wrong because he is not. But 99.9999% of parents in this country provide for their children without having a $20 million bonus at their disposal. And many of them do it every day risking alot more than a knee injury. Many of them don't come home at night.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70916 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:02 pm to
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But a NY6 bowl is? What bowl games would not be worthle


Sure, higher profile bowl game vs higher profile teams draw more fan support as well as assisting in recruiting efforts. The fiesta bowls of the world mean more to your teams like UCF, MTSU, etc. but LSU? It’s a disappointment and is meaningless.

I understand it’s not meaningless for LSU. We need to win the game; for all of those reasons.


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LSU is going to lose money on this bowl.


How? Genuinely asking.

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These games are certainly not meaningless.


For Greedy, it most certainly is meaningless for all the reasons listed in this thread

This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 9:51 am
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:03 pm to
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But to say he's making the decision to support his family is just a rationalization for what is bascially a selfish decision. And again, I'm not saying that he's wrong because he is not. But 99.9999% of parents in this country provide for their children without having a $20 million bonus at their disposal. And many of them do it every day risking alot more than a knee injury. Many of them don't come home at night.





Total bullshite and the last two sentences are absolutely irrelevant.
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:13 pm to
Good article. That is a legitimate reason.
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
5957 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:13 pm to
He made a decision based on his kids future and I take him at his word.

I've not walked in his shoes and can't fault him for that.

Good Luck Greedy.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10326 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:13 pm to
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Total bullshite and the last two sentences are absolutely irrelevant.


So the part where I say he's not wrong is total bullshite?
Posted by JakeRStephenes
Member since Feb 2012
2589 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:23 pm to
Nice try to rehabilitate his reputation, as some NFL execs are probably seeing the blowback on social media.

Blast away, but in my book "start something, finish something"
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 6:01 pm to
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Another view, is that anything can happen at any time. I coached an exceptional track athlete in basketball. He ended up being pretty successful at LSU. He had a lingering hamstring issue, and I even asked the mom why he was even bothering playing basketball. Her response was that he can get in a car accident and get hurt any day, so they taught him not to back out of anything for fear of injury.


This kid's parents would have a totally different view if $20 million dollars in income depended on the him being healthy. That's the problem with the people who are down on Greedy, 99.99% of them have never made a decision that involved millions of dollars in future income. Its very easy to be say Greedy should be "honorable", and "do what's best for the team" when you its not their money at stake.
Posted by JakeRStephenes
Member since Feb 2012
2589 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:08 pm to
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There isn't a parent on here would would honestly say they wouldn't make the same choice.


I would, but I wasn't a parent at 18.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64684 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:11 pm to
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He made a decision based on his kids future and I take him at his word.

Wonder if he’ll make this type of decision when his second contract comes up? Is he going to hold out and not play for his employer until he gets his money?
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71734 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:12 pm to
Maybe. That’s pretty common in the nfl.

Or maybe not.
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