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re: Etling vs Chattanoogie (Every throw)
Posted on 9/11/17 at 12:08 pm to bmy
Posted on 9/11/17 at 12:08 pm to bmy
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Chark had all of them beat deep.. it was the right read. He just didn't pull the trigger early enough. He needed to throw it a few heartbeats earlier.
A low percentage throw 50 yards down the field into 4 defenders is the better read than throwing it 20 yards directly in front of you to David Ducre who didn't have a defender within a 15 yard circle radius of him?
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Posted on 9/11/17 at 12:08 pm to Datbayoubengal
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I'm guessing they're holding back going over the middle until SEC play, although it makes zero sense to me. Slants, crossers, and digs aren't secret to anyone.
They ran a decent mix of those, but Etling was going deep most of the time. The throw to Stevens was a long crossing route, and the both over throws to Chark were across the middle.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 12:09 pm to icegator337
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I thought his arm definitely still looked weak... anyone at this level can make the throws down the field in a clean pocket. His arm strength on out routes and making accurate throws with zip while off balance are the spots that arm strength comes into play more often. I didn't think he looked good when off balance and his out throws hung in the air way too long. Those get undercut by good dbs
I agree with all of this, and especially the part in bold. All i can think about is when the Florida DBs cut under the Michigan QB's passes with 2 pick 6s. Etling won't be dealing with bad secondaries vs UF or Bama.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 12:13 pm to slackster
Etling is going to catch a lot of shite when he struggles against good defenses.. but he's going to live and die by the offensive line.
He's better than last season and roughly equivalent to Flynn IMO
He's better than last season and roughly equivalent to Flynn IMO
Posted on 9/11/17 at 12:13 pm to the_watcher
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low percentage throw 50 yards down the field into 4 defenders is the better read than throwing it 20 yards directly in front of you to David Ducre who didn't have a defender within a 15 yard circle radius of him?
I'm not really sure those 4 defenders stay with Chark if the ball is thrown underneath to Ducre/Davis. That ball had some air on it and the safety on the weak side of the formation may have taken away the throw to Ducre coming into that area.
Chark had his man/men beat, and a good throw is a TD. Not the worst of decisions if you're going to get the ball there.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 12:16 pm to bmy
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Etling is going to catch a lot of shite when he struggles against good defenses.. but he's going to live and die by the offensive line. He's better than last season and roughly equivalent to Flynn IMO
That's basically where I am as well.
The part that concerns me going forward is when he compounds a mistake. Throwing into triple coverage is one thing, but that throw has to be for your guy or no one at all. Like I said earlier, he needs to anticipate those throws a bit better.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:21 pm to slackster
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I'm not really sure those 4 defenders stay with Chark if the ball is thrown underneath to Ducre/Davis.
Jesus man. All 4 were running stride for stride with DJ Chark. They are 15-18 yards away from Ducre and running at top speed away from him. Play the video in the original post and pause the video exactly at the 4:38 mark. I'm not making this up. It is a fact that all 4 defenders were with Chark and Ducre was alone by himself. Play the clip and look at it for yourself.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:24 pm to the_watcher
If Etling puts more on that throw to Chark, he gets into the endzone easily. He had two steps on those defenders. He was open. Etling just tried placing the ball too much. Said it himself.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 1:37 pm to the_watcher
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When he throws the ball deep, it doesn't go as far as it should. The throw lands under where the intended throw should go
Besides the deep ball to Chark please point out the underthrows.
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:13 pm to Catman88
So two down votes and so far nobody can point out the other underthrows?
Anyone anyone Bueller?
Anyone anyone Bueller?
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:15 pm to slackster
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I'm not really sure those 4 defenders stay with Chark if the ball is thrown underneath to Ducre/Davis. That ball had some air on it and the safety on the weak side of the formation may have taken away the throw to Ducre coming into that area.
Theres a replay in the video shown from field level behind the endzone. Watch that replay. You can see those 4 guys chasing Chark as Etling is loading up to throw the ball. We can't see Chark off the line but my guess is he got wide arse open at the start of the play and those guys were racing back to try to cover him.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:17 pm to Catman88
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Besides the deep ball to Chark please point out the underthrows.
Pass to Chark with 8:04 remaining in second quarter was badly behind him. He didn't lead him enough/throw the ball hard enough for it to be in front of him. Could also say he "under threw it"
Pass to Chark on 2nd and 6 with 1:58 to go in second quarter
Pass to Guice with 13:10 remaining in 3rd quarter was underthrown, behind him, and out of bounds
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:30 pm to the_watcher
8:04 pass was high and behind him. How in the frick is that an underthrow? Not even close. It was a misfire FAIL
1:58 threw the ball OB. Watch the play again and then watch the LB. Etling changed the path of that throw once the LB appeared in the path. Again not remotely an underthrow.
1310 pass to Guice sailed OB over his head while a defender was about to hit him?
Of note all your examples are short passes on incomplete passes with one avoiding a pick. QBs dont make all the throws all game. Why are LSU fans expecting perfection
1:58 threw the ball OB. Watch the play again and then watch the LB. Etling changed the path of that throw once the LB appeared in the path. Again not remotely an underthrow.
1310 pass to Guice sailed OB over his head while a defender was about to hit him?
Of note all your examples are short passes on incomplete passes with one avoiding a pick. QBs dont make all the throws all game. Why are LSU fans expecting perfection
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:33 pm to Catman88
/where in this video is the sullivan drop everyone is complaining about? Did i miss it
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:34 pm to PapaPogey
that was Brennan
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:34 pm to Salmon
ahhhhh okay. Cool thanks
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:35 pm to PapaPogey
Was not an Etling throw. And yes Brennan hit him in the hands for what would have been a nice TD
This post was edited on 9/11/17 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:44 pm to Catman88
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8:04 pass was high and behind him. How in the frick is that an underthrow? Not even close. It was a misfire FAIL
I literally explained how in the post that you responded to. The only fail was the throw. Just because you use a different adjective doesn't make you right or the throw any less bad. The ball was thrown badly BEHIND HIM.
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Watch the play again and then watch the LB. Etling changed the path of that throw once the LB appeared in the path. Again not remotely an underthrow.
Just watched it again. It was still an under throw.
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1310 pass to Guice sailed OB over his head while a defender was about to hit him?
So it doesn't count as an underthrow if the qb is about to get it?
Sorry for your delusion.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:50 pm to the_watcher
You must be a troll. A pass HIGH and behind him! only a fricking idiot would consider an underthrow in and shape or form.
I dont think you know what this word even means. He avoided a pick 6 by throwing it away.
It counts as a misfire under pressure in most peoples books. The ball sailing out of bounds is most certainly NOT an underthrow.
All you did was prove fans touting the underthrow line are fricking morons.
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Just watched it again. It was still an under throw
I dont think you know what this word even means. He avoided a pick 6 by throwing it away.
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So it doesn't count as an underthrow if the qb is about to get it?
It counts as a misfire under pressure in most peoples books. The ball sailing out of bounds is most certainly NOT an underthrow.
All you did was prove fans touting the underthrow line are fricking morons.
Posted on 9/11/17 at 2:56 pm to the_watcher
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Chark literally had 4 players on him
Not really. Two of those guys were in no position to make a play, and Chark had the other two beat. If Etling puts a little more on that pass, the two trailing DBs never get within 7 yards of Chark or the ball and Chark takes that one to the end zone. Since the ball was under thrown, Chark had to slow down and come back to the ball, allowing it to be a contested catch and the two trailing DBs to look more in position than they were.
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