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ESPN Bracketology Covering Draft Prospects
Posted on 3/15/21 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 3/15/21 at 8:04 pm
Out of about 6-7 players discussed in the entire field. they spoke about Cam Thomas and Trendon Watford. For both of them the comments were similar, great scorer, really good on the offensive end, but they aren’t ranked higher because of concerns on the defensive end.
I mean, has no one told these guys yet that their lack of effort on the defensive end not only costs their team games, but if they want to be selfish, it’s costing them hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of dollars.
I’m thrilled as can be at the effort we saw in the SECT. But what took so long?
I mean, has no one told these guys yet that their lack of effort on the defensive end not only costs their team games, but if they want to be selfish, it’s costing them hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of dollars.
I’m thrilled as can be at the effort we saw in the SECT. But what took so long?
This post was edited on 3/15/21 at 8:06 pm
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Posted on 3/15/21 at 8:09 pm to Choupique19
Don’t trust anything they say about basketball.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 8:30 pm to Choupique19
No team drafting Cam Thomas will give a flying frick about his defense
Posted on 3/15/21 at 8:33 pm to Sahen
His scoring reminds me of Marcus Thornton, can shoot from anywhere.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 8:33 pm to Choupique19
Valid concerns about Cam. At times he's a big liability on the defensive side of the floor, but both of these guys will be drafted on pure potential. Cam is a border line lottery pick and Watford will be a borderline first round pick.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 8:33 pm to Choupique19
Have you watched the NBA lately?
Trick question: I haven’t so I couldn’t tell you, but I assume everyone is still just interested in putting up 100 a game and playing defense in the playoffs
Trick question: I haven’t so I couldn’t tell you, but I assume everyone is still just interested in putting up 100 a game and playing defense in the playoffs
Posted on 3/15/21 at 8:37 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
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ESPN Bracketology Covering Draft Prospects
Valid concerns about Cam. At times he's a big liability on the defensive side of the floor, but both of these guys will be drafted on pure potential. Cam is a border line lottery pick and Watford will be a borderline first round pick.
The Watford we saw on Friday and Sunday is the 5* player we recruited and a 1st rounder. The Watford we have seen for a lot of the season is barely a 2nd rounder if that (though his numbers were still pretty good because he shoots a lot). He was phenomenal on Sunday though. If that player shows up in the tourney, LSU will be a really tough out.
Cam is a dynamic offensive player, but doesn't go hard enough on defense, on getting loose balls or rebounding that I can see, but the NBA is an offensive league and he can get his points against anyone.
This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 12:10 am
Posted on 3/15/21 at 8:47 pm to Sahen
quote:he shoots only 40.5% FG, 32% from beyond the arc.
No team drafting Cam Thomas will give a flying frick about his defense
You damn well better believe NBA team will care about his defense, because those are poor shooting %s.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 8:53 pm to Yippie_Ky_yae
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Don’t trust anything they say about anything
FIFY
Posted on 3/15/21 at 8:59 pm to atltiger6487
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he shoots only 40.5% FG, 32% from beyond the arc.
You damn well better believe NBA team will care about his defense, because those are poor shooting %s.
And he's still going in the 1st round despite playing terrible defense. That should tell you how much they care about his potential scoring ability.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 10:45 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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The Watford we saw on Friday and Sunday is the 5* player we recruited and a 1st rounder. The Cam we have seen for a lot of the season is barely a 2nd rounder if that (though his numbers were still pretty good because he shoots a lot).
What a hyperbolic prisoner of the moment take.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:19 am to southdowns84
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The Watford we saw on Friday and Sunday is the 5* player we recruited and a 1st rounder. The Cam we have seen for a lot of the season is barely a 2nd rounder if that (though his numbers were still pretty good because he shoots a lot).
What a hyperbolic prisoner of the moment take.
That's supposed to say "Watford" where it says "Cam". Cam has been pretty consistent all year for what he brings and doesn't bring to the table. If we get the Watford we saw in the SEC tourney, we can be extremely tough to beat. If we get the one we saw for a good bit of the season, we could be ousted in the 1st game. Even with Days having one of his worst offensive games of the year, it took huge play after huge play for Bama to edge out LSU by 1 with Watford playing how he played.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 7:16 am to atltiger6487
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he shoots only 40.5% FG, 32% from beyond the arc.
How many open looks does cam get?
Posted on 3/16/21 at 7:39 am to Choupique19
Does anyone in the NBA play Defense?
Posted on 3/16/21 at 7:41 am to jimbeam
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interested in putting up 100 a game
They are professionals that are paid to shoot at baskets all day every day and they play 48 minutes a game on a 24 second shot clock. Teams should be scoring 100 a game. That’s barely over 2 points a minute. LSU basketball on a 30 second shot clock would score almost 100 a game with 8 extra minutes.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:24 am to LSUVAFAN
You have your Hardens and carmelo's that refuse to play defense, but yes for the most part, they play defense in the NBA. There are only 450ish men on the ENTIRE PLANET that are good enough to play in the NBA. Doesn't it make sense that these guys are elite scorers and close to impossible to stop? All you can do most of the time is try to stay between your man and the basket, contest the shot, and hope he misses. The pros know how to put the ball in the basket.
Also, fouls are slanted towards the offensive player in basketball, which makes it even tougher.
Also, fouls are slanted towards the offensive player in basketball, which makes it even tougher.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 9:16 am to LSUVAFAN
quote:the elite scorers may not play much defense, but most NBA players aren't elite scorers, and those other guys earn their roster spot with defense.
Does anyone in the NBA play Defense?
Posted on 3/16/21 at 9:21 am to atltiger6487
quote:His free throw shooting more than makes up for that as he draws a lot of fouls.
he shoots only 40.5% FG, 32% from beyond the arc.
You damn well better believe NBA team will care about his defense, because those are poor shooting %s.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 9:23 am to Choupique19
quote:With Cam it may be a lack of effort, but for Watford it seems to be lack of ability.
I mean, has no one told these guys yet that their lack of effort on the defensive end not only costs their team games, but if they want to be selfish, it’s costing them hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of dollars.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 10:18 am to tigahlovah
I think people still sleep on just how consistently good Watford has been since he stepped foot on campus. It's almost like the blame Simmons got when the overall team wasn't successful. Watford is a legit solid NBA rotation guy. He's not a superstar, but those are few and far between. He is a very talented player. He needs to work on his finish at the rim (leaves too many close shots rolling off the cylinder) and his free throw shooting. His defense is actually not bad. Again, the problem with LSU defensively is mostly transition defense and scheme/assignments rather than individual player deficiencies there (with a few exceptions). Watford is better than a lot of our fans realize.
With Cam and the comments about shooting vs defense, Cam is exactly what the scouts are saying. He's a dynamic scorer who knows how to get to the free throw line (college version of James Harden). The defensive struggles for him are an individual effort thing rather than scheme as I see with Watford. I believe his lack of "all around" game is what cost him a McDonald's All-American selection in high school. There is no doubting him as a scorer, though, and teams in the NBA will absolutely take a guy like him and compensate elsewhere for the defense. If he can continue to build his game, he could take a gigantic leap. Reminds me of an early career Russell Westbrook who only wanted to score. After learning the hard way, he developed the other parts of his game and became one of the premier all-around ballers in the league. Not saying that's where Cam winds up, but developing the weaker parts of his game could dramatically increase his impact and his $$ over time.
With Cam and the comments about shooting vs defense, Cam is exactly what the scouts are saying. He's a dynamic scorer who knows how to get to the free throw line (college version of James Harden). The defensive struggles for him are an individual effort thing rather than scheme as I see with Watford. I believe his lack of "all around" game is what cost him a McDonald's All-American selection in high school. There is no doubting him as a scorer, though, and teams in the NBA will absolutely take a guy like him and compensate elsewhere for the defense. If he can continue to build his game, he could take a gigantic leap. Reminds me of an early career Russell Westbrook who only wanted to score. After learning the hard way, he developed the other parts of his game and became one of the premier all-around ballers in the league. Not saying that's where Cam winds up, but developing the weaker parts of his game could dramatically increase his impact and his $$ over time.
This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 11:00 am
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