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re: ESPN - Shady's Bar employees: "Victims threw first punch"

Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:31 pm to
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put yourself in their shoes.


Can't. Police took them all as evidence.



LOL
Posted by dreaux
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:32 pm to
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quote:
If the story is true that a punch happened in the bar, then the "victims" waited outside for the players to leave, that (to me) is pre-meditated. They were looking to ruff shite up. But they messed with the wrong crowd. They got exactly what they deserved...broken bones and all. If someone is waiting for me to fight, I will do everything I can to render him harmless, including kicking him on the ground. You don't like it? Don't frick with me anywhere for any reason. I don't play by rules when someone is waiting for me to engage in a fight. frick 'em.



Right the frick on. frick'em

Motherfricker lied. Fisher has this by the balls, case closed.some of you will cry when they are vindicated
Posted by Cadello
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

put yourself in their shoes.


Can't. Police took them all as evidence.

BOOM
Posted by Mikebandit
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:32 pm to
I'm still trying to figure out how they can say the person in the video that did the kicking was jefferson cause i sure as hell can't tell
Posted by Statestreet
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:33 pm to
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Andrew Lowery's dreams




I don't think they were Andrew's dreams initially, but once he had some time to think about a possible silver lining to his arse being handled then he got his story in line.
Posted by LSUfan007700
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

quote: quote: If the story is true that a punch happened in the bar, then the "victims" waited outside for the players to leave, that (to me) is pre-meditated. They were looking to ruff shite up. But they messed with the wrong crowd. They got exactly what they deserved...broken bones and all. If someone is waiting for me to fight, I will do everything I can to render him harmless, including kicking him on the ground. You don't like it? Don't frick with me anywhere for any reason. I don't play by rules when someone is waiting for me to engage in a fight. frick 'em. Right the frick on. frick'em Motherfricker lied. Fisher has this by the balls, case closed.some of you will cry when they are vindicated
Moneyshot!!!
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:33 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/8/23 at 3:08 pm
Posted by ChenierauTigre
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:34 pm to
But, but . . . he's a marine!
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:34 pm to
Also, the police report is only from a girl that obviously went home with Lowery and had plenty of time to talk with him:

quote:

At approximately 0610 hours I contacted Long who advises that Lower was at home sleeping.


Now how would a simple by-stander know that? The bitch went home with him and talked a story out with him. Her statement is worth as much as Lowery's is
Posted by Cadello
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Member since Dec 2007
47877 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:34 pm to
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Yeah, because statements that a punch was thrown inside clearly and definitively prove your version. I've met blind nuthuggers, but some of y'all are ridiculous.

Read my last 50 posts and tell me I'm blind.
You are either a Bama fan or a racist to want JJ burned so badly with NO evidence.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7773 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:34 pm to
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I'm still trying to figure out how they can say the person in the video that did the kicking was jefferson cause i sure as hell can't tell


As was stated in the video thread when people couldnt make out the Jordanjeff audio part. If you want to see it you do if not you don't so those who are sure JJ did it see it those who don't think he did or are waiting for facts don't see it
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:35 pm to
I just wish we knew the truth
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:35 pm to
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Can someone else answer?

Does this legally clear Jefferson?


Not completely, but the "victims': case just took a tremendous hit.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:35 pm to
If it clears him, are you gonna jump off a cliff?
Posted by geauxaddai
Chicago, IL
Member since Jan 2008
2864 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

If the story is true that a punch happened in the bar, then the "victims" waited outside for the players to leave, that (to me) is pre-meditated. They were looking to ruff shite up. But they messed with the wrong crowd. They got exactly what they deserved...broken bones and all. If someone is waiting for me to fight, I will do everything I can to render him harmless, including kicking him on the ground. You don't like it? Don't frick with me anywhere for any reason. I don't play by rules when someone is waiting for me to engage in a fight. frick 'em.


along those lines I am surprised some passionate fans haven't taken it to this turd Lowery. I would have looked to kick his arse, felony or not, had I still lived there.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:36 pm to
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I just wish we knew the truth


+infinity

Sadly, we never will. It's too late for that. There will only be enough to make a (sort of) determination as to what went on.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
69947 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:36 pm to
We won't ever know the truth


There isn't enough here to suspend JJ
Posted by Elcid96
Member since May 2010
5465 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:36 pm to
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That there is no known credible evidence implicating Jefferson, but there is placing him away from the fight.


How do you know this? From the RANT?

From the other 3 guys official statements?

Again have you seen all 4 official statements and those of all witnesses. IF not then you can't make that claim.

Unless your are trying to win a court battle on the rant.

You are speaking as if the trial was taking place on the Rant...and if so you win. However unless you have seen all the evidence...how can you claim your above statement. FACT IS YOU CAN NOT!

You even admitted in your above post you wanted to see what the others stated, yet tried to claime that only Lowery named names. So you admitted you don't know what anyone else said, but am sure they didn't see anything.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
23197 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:37 pm to
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Does this legally clear Jefferson?


No. Eyewitness reports that Lowrey (or his friends) would not immediately clear Jefferson of battery.

However, it could help the defense build a self defense case for the players that would prevent them from being charged.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48519 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:37 pm to
The greatest outcome of this whole thing will be if Lowery is the only one charged with a crime.
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