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re: Entitled Teams/Media Hypocricy/BCS Formula/Con Champs- Hilarity Ensues UPDATE OP
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:55 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:55 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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EZE Tiger Fan
You've done a good job arguing in this thread, and you continually make good points.
Also, just as a side note, the only two teams to make it to the BCS title game without winnning their conference have been from the BigXII. Hell, at least '03 Oklahoma won their division. The '01 Nebraska team did not.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 6:13 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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Also, just as a side note, the only two teams to make it to the BCS title game without winnning their conference have been from the BigXII. Hell, at least '03 Oklahoma won their division. The '01 Nebraska team did not.
That's because, for some reason, the computers have always had a strange love affair with the Big 12. Maybe LSUMatt can explain that as well.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 6:16 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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EZE Tiger Fan
Let me get this straight. I gather from your posts that the "media" is . . . anti-LSU,pro- liberal, hates Repbulicans, hates Americans and is anti-Christian. Have I left anything out?
Posted on 11/29/11 at 7:44 am to VOR
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Let me get this straight. I gather from your posts that the "media" is . . . anti-LSU,pro- liberal, hates Repbulicans, hates Americans and is anti-Christian. Have I left anything out?
Thanks for reminding me why I quit posting on the PoliBoard as much as I did. For someone who claims to be so intellectually superior, you really have no clue.
I'm neither Republican nor Christian, but you know that.
As for the OP, since you did bring up one point that could be valid with the topic:
Yes, after working with the LSU football team for years, I can tell you, without a doubt, that there is a large portion of the media that is anti-LSU. It has gotten a little better over the years, but LSU will never be one of the entitled teams/darlings. No one wants that anyway. People on the "inside" know this as well and play into it as well. It is a huge motivator for the team. More than anyone here will ever know, nor is it something the players discuss openly. They are not allowed to.
But that wasn't the point of my thread....I just wanted to appease your smart arse with a reply.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 7:53 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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They are ALL saying the same thing: Bama deserves to be in the NCG after "blowing out" Auburn.
Who hasn't blown out AU this year? LOL
Yep. LSU beat Auburn 45-10 (better than the gump 42-14 win)
Georgia beat Auburn 45-7.
But the only team getting rave reviews of their win against Auburn is Bama.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:14 am to los angeles tiger
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Yep. LSU beat Auburn 45-10 (better than the gump 42-14 win)
Georgia beat Auburn 45-7.
But the only team getting rave reviews of their win against Auburn is Bama.
You should log on to yahoo and reat Forde's article after that game. You'd swear Bama beat the Packers in Green Bay.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:37 am to EZE Tiger Fan
You Geaux EZE !
I agree with everything you said, and you were spot on!
That's why I hate teams like Notre Dame, USC, Ohio State, Alabama, Oklahoma, etc., because of their sense of entitlement - like their owed something. Pisses me off.
I agree with everything you said, and you were spot on!
That's why I hate teams like Notre Dame, USC, Ohio State, Alabama, Oklahoma, etc., because of their sense of entitlement - like their owed something. Pisses me off.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:38 am to FemaleTiger
Oops! Correction - "like they're owed something!"
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:53 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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You honestly think if LSU had lost the "game of the century" at home, with Bama's current schedule, they would be ranked #2?
This is the only reason I dont like this whole "rematch" talk. Had LSU lost, would we be ranked No. 2 now sitting at home waiting for Bama? I dont believe we would have, they would argue "they had their shot and fumbled it."
Posted on 11/29/11 at 8:54 am to lsuhunt555
Doesn't matter who we play, LSU will destroy them
Posted on 11/29/11 at 9:30 am to lsuhunt555
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Had LSU lost, would we be ranked No. 2 now sitting at home waiting for Bama? I dont believe we would have, they would argue "they had their shot and fumbled it."
**ESPECIALLY** if we had lost in tiger stadium on a saturday night..
Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:00 am to CAD703X
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Had LSU lost, would we be ranked No. 2 now sitting at home waiting for Bama? I dont believe we would have, they would argue "they had their shot and fumbled it."
**ESPECIALLY** if we had lost in tiger stadium on a saturday night..
Here is one of several quotes from the SECRant I could provide you that sums up the entitlement mentality perfectly.
This was from a Bama fan this morning:
"Lol. Y'all can convince yourselves you're the better team all you want.
I'll concede that you're a better team if you can beat us more convincingly when we play you again ;)
Until then, your offense is weaksauce and ours was just...... /cough not performing well on Nov 5th."
How do you reason with the hubris of the entitled?
Answer: You can't and you shouldn't. Let the boys at ESPN continue to feed them, and sit back and laugh.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:04 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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How do you reason with the hubris of the entitled?
you beat their arse in the superdome in january
Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:14 am to CAD703X
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you beat their arse in the superdome in january
Exactly, but what excuses do we hear then from bama fans/media (one in the same)?
That's when it really gets fun.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:16 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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Exactly, but what excuses do we hear then from bama fans/media (one in the same)?
this will be fun. go ahead & line up the 'officials cheated us', 'if it wasnt for xy and z', 'we had more X stats...'
:rotlmao:
we won't 'win' even if we win.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 10:41 am to CAD703X
Another jewel to help you understand the entitlement mentality in CFB:
"9-6 In the game that didnt matter"
No, LSU won the right to play another game, while we sit back and wait and see if they make it in.
Ahh yes. Now, their loss doesn't matter one bit! See, when you are entitled, you play on a different playing field. You, LSU, must earn your way into the game. You, LSU, must win the conference while we sit on our arse at home to see if you may lose and lose out on the NC game.
Reminds me of the guy on food stamps who doesn't pay taxes, demands more from the working class, then, instead of thanking them for the gift, he slaps them in the face and demands more.
"9-6 In the game that didnt matter"
No, LSU won the right to play another game, while we sit back and wait and see if they make it in.
Ahh yes. Now, their loss doesn't matter one bit! See, when you are entitled, you play on a different playing field. You, LSU, must earn your way into the game. You, LSU, must win the conference while we sit on our arse at home to see if you may lose and lose out on the NC game.
Reminds me of the guy on food stamps who doesn't pay taxes, demands more from the working class, then, instead of thanking them for the gift, he slaps them in the face and demands more.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 11:05 am to los angeles tiger
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But the only team getting rave reviews of their win against Auburn is Bama.
One more time:
Posted on 11/29/11 at 11:07 am to Pauldean
quote:This was true in 2003 because the "BCS System" was an actual system with strength of schedule and quality wins as a separate component in the formula along with computer ratings and human poll votes. The system could not be as easily manipulated by the voters and that is what created the outrage. Today, in 2011 the "BCS System" is back to being a popular vote. Quality wins and body of work mean little if your name is OSU. Everyone talks about Bama passing the eyeball test but lots of teams could pass the eyeball test playing 3 teams with winning records in FBS play.
Which brings me to my last point: the media did not create the controversy. In 2003 or 2011. Its a direct result of the system.
The BCS was originally set up to reward teams for playing a tough schedule and we are now back to voting in the most popular girl in school. I would love to see what the BCS standings would look like this year using the 2003 formula that cared less about the name on the uniform and more about what was accomplished on the field.
Posted on 11/29/11 at 12:01 pm to XbengalTiger
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This was true in 2003 because the "BCS System" was an actual system with strength of schedule and quality wins as a separate component in the formula along with computer ratings and human poll votes. The
the retarded thing about this is for 2 weeks prior to the OU/KSU game, *ALL* the media outlets were saying how amazing OU was (team of the decade..remember that?) ..and how it
..wait for it..
wait for it...
WOULD NOT MATTER IF THEY LOST THE KANSAS GAME BECAUSE THEY WERE SO FAR AHEAD IN BCS COMPUTERS.
well that happened..and then suddenly everyone starting whining about USC being left out..amazingly short memories.
This post was edited on 11/29/11 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 11/29/11 at 12:10 pm to CAD703X
quote:
This was true in 2003 because the "BCS System" was an actual system with strength of schedule and quality wins as a separate component in the formula along with computer ratings and human poll votes. The
the retarded thing about this is for 2 weeks prior to the OU/KSU game, *ALL* the media outlets were saying how amazing OU was (team of the decade..remember that?) ..and how it
..wait for it..
wait for it...
WOULD NOT MATTER IF THEY LOST THE KANSAS GAME BECAUSE THEY WERE SO FAR AHEAD IN BCS COMPUTERS.
well that happened..and then suddenly everyone starting whining about USC being left out..amazingly short memories.
Bingo CAD and XBengal,
But remember, in 2003, they were saying this because the media at that time was so sure that LSU was going to lose to UGA in Atlanta, that they were going to get their dream matchup of USC vs Oklahoma.
Remember, LSU won in BR 17-10, but "UGA was clearly the better team".
Does this sound familiar? Yes, it does. 9-6, but "Bama was clearly the better team".
In 2003, as XBengal pointed out, LSU's quality of wins after beating UGA was so impressive, the formula at the time dictated their appearance in the game. When this happened, their darling in Los Angeles (the second largest media market in the US) was left out due to the fact they only played one ranked team all year, or 3 FBS teams with winning records (sound familiar? LOL).
It is important to understand the mindset of the media and their entitled schools and pay attention to history. Those who don't pay attention to history are doomed to repeat it.
So, as stated in the OP, the formuala was changed in 2004 so they could get their precious OU vs USC matchup. Oh, and at the same time give the SEC and podunk undefeated Auburn the finger.
Hypocricy at its finest.
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