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Posted on 12/28/18 at 4:55 pm to bencoleman
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Does anyone really think that LSU needs to make a move at OC?
Do you think that Sweeney, Saban, Smart, Meyer, Fisher,or Kelley would retain Ensminger?
No.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 4:56 pm to bencoleman
quote:No. Changing OC's again isn't the best thing for the program. Neither was hiring Coach E. But as you eluded to at this point we are stuck with him for better or worse. I just think you can say that Coach E isn't the right man for the job while also saying he shouldn't be replaced after one year.
What would you have everyone do? Do you really want to go for 3 OCs in 3 years? Do you really think that's the best thing for the program?
Posted on 12/28/18 at 4:57 pm to DBG
Hell even the shite coaching of Cam and Miles had the offense audibling.
And we saw JB audible put of plays.
And we saw JB audible put of plays.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 4:58 pm to TrevRollings29
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Do you think that Sweeney, Saban, Smart, Meyer, Fisher,or Kelley would retain Ensminger?
I think they would. In fact I bet if he were on the open market they would bid for his services.
Ensminger's been coaching longer than most of those guys. You don't think they have a thing or two to learn from him?
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 12/28/18 at 4:59 pm to lsudat10
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New personnel at every position composed of first timers and old timers trying to build chemistry, injuries and off-the-field issues with key starters and learn an entire college football playbook in 2 months. Remember, LSU was preseason ranked based off of these facts, and still was able to pull off a 9-3 regular season record.
Coach O and staff need to keep orchestrating, but the players need to help out. It needs to be more important for them to be better.
Teaching an offense to audible from pass to run and vice versa is HS shite.
Its not like the offense was expected to walk to the line with 4 plays.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 12/28/18 at 5:00 pm to Goldrush25
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think they would. In fact I bet if he were on the open market they would bid for his services.
Ensminger's been coaching longer than most of those guys. You don't think they have a thing or two to learn from him?
Really need a sarcasm font.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 5:01 pm to Tiger Tracker
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even in this thread, will say that the OC was only part of the issue this year. We know the o line was shite. However that shouldn't give Ensminger a pass. I think that's where the frustrations are. People are trying to excuse the entire offensive production because of the O line which is not the whole story either. The truth is both the OC and o line were not great this year. It's up for debate how much of the blame to put where though.
I saw issues initially at QB, but he improved.
Our TB play was below our standards. We had just one FB and one TE which hurt our situation.
Our WRs were not up to par. We dropped passes, didn't block well and were slow.
And of course the OL issues especially at tackle.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 5:02 pm to doubleb
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We had just one FB and one TE which hurt our situation.
How many fricking fullbacks do we need?
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 12/28/18 at 5:03 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Hell even the shite coaching of Cam and Miles had the offense audibling.
The whole offense had to look to the sideline to see which play to run they were so confused..............
Posted on 12/28/18 at 5:04 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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No. Changing OC's again isn't the best thing for the program. Neither was hiring Coach E. But as you eluded to at this point we are stuck with him for better or worse. I just think you can say that Coach E isn't the right man for the job while also saying he shouldn't be replaced after one year.
This is exactly my thought. In what world was it a good idea to hire someone that publicly did not want the job and had been coaching highschool more in the last 20 years than running his own offense?
But our clown ad thought it was a good idea so we are stuck with his dinosaur,max protect,PA when no one respects the run game,refusal to move the pocket,long developing play with shaking oline play,bringing more defenders into the box,and horrid redzone offense.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 5:05 pm to Goldrush25
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We don't know that.
Ensminger's been coaching longer than most of those guys. You don't think they have a thing or two to learn from him?
Yes we do know that. At the end of the day, when its time to sit down with the big man in charge, you dont get extra points for excuses. Your results speak for themselves.
At this point, any one of them other coaches would have already had a couple if not more performance reviews with E to learn what his roadblocks to success were and what he was doing to turn things around. They wouldn't do what O inevitably will do, which is wait until theres pressure on his job to make the change.
Os overall record might have bought him more time, because he does get credit for improved special teams and a defense that wins games for him. NONE of that should be an excuse for Es performance.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 5:06 pm to SammyTiger
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How many fricking fullbacks do we need?
Two
Posted on 12/28/18 at 5:07 pm to doubleb
Doesn’t that seem like a fundamental issue with this offense that we Need not just 1 but 2 more fullbacks than 80% of the other teams in the country?
Posted on 12/28/18 at 5:09 pm to DBG
A lot of very talented athletes go to the NFL and either take a few years to mature or finally make it, cause they cannot get the playbook down. Today’s offenses do not take a Harvard scholar, but are way beyond the high school book. We have seen it in BR with a few that took a few years to really hit it!
Reality is, some cannot remember the two or even three plays that can be called in a huddle. Some go to the line thinking about the first play called & cannot react quick enough with an audible & quick snap. The ole “not on the same page” comment.
Coach E just tellin it like it is IMO.
Reality is, some cannot remember the two or even three plays that can be called in a huddle. Some go to the line thinking about the first play called & cannot react quick enough with an audible & quick snap. The ole “not on the same page” comment.
Coach E just tellin it like it is IMO.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 5:11 pm to dukke v
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The whole offense had to look to the sideline to see which play to run they were so confused..............
Did they audible? Yes? Then even those shite coaches could teach the offense to audible.
Again, just because you say they were confused doesnt make it true.
And the offense youre shitting on were more productive than this offense.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 5:12 pm to SammyTiger
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Doesn’t that seem like a fundamental issue with this offense that we Need not just 1 but 2 more fullbacks than 80% of the other teams in the country?
They are going back to what Miles was doing, which is power running. Frankly, you can be outcoached and still win if you have better personel and a good run game.
They just realized that they are getting outcoached. The one glaring difference between now and the les miles era is that we can now have the 4th overall class and still have been out recruited by 3 other teams in our own conference. Things weren't that way in most of the Miles era.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 5:12 pm to tigernnola
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Today’s offenses do not take a Harvard scholar,
My strong feeling is that if the players aren’t getting it it’s probably because thisnoffense isn’t one of Today’s offenses that players learn quickly.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 5:13 pm to tigernnola
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Reality is, some cannot remember the two or even three plays that can be called in a huddle. Some go to the line thinking about the first play called & cannot react quick enough with an audible & quick snap. The ole “not on the same page” comment.
Coach E just tellin it like it is IMO.
Are you saying our offensove players cant handle a good highschool offenses playbook? And if so why is O recruiting players that cant handle 2 plays?
Posted on 12/28/18 at 5:15 pm to dukke v
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The whole offense had to look to the sideline to see which play to run they were so confused
The famed look at me offense. I think LSU set records for delay of game penalties using that.
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