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re: Ed Orgeron's presser on the offense
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
People aren't skeptical of change. They are skeptical of that change being led by people who have never proven they can successfully do it.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 2:11 pm
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:00 pm to Goldrush25
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cannot help but think he has something to do with getting in the way of his offense's success.
Of corse you can't. The only reason you post here is to bash the guy.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:02 pm to classicgold
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modern offense.
Seems like your saying O fired a OC who was trying to get O to run a modern offense and replaced him with one who doesn't and needs to be propped up.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:04 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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People are skeptical of change.
Cool. Then you agree his premise was ridiculous.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Pretty sure E will start, Brady will be eased into more responsibility as the year rolls around.
This will be a transition year. Last year of Es OC contract and Brady take over after the season.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Of corse you can't. The only reason you post here is to bash the guy.
Nah brother. I just look at the evidence.
What explanation do you have for the fact that this coach hasn't had a single decent offense in his entire career? Serious question.
Since you're quick to dismiss my premise, I'm sure you must have a better one ready to go.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:08 pm to Goldrush25
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I just look at the evidence.
Like calling the Georgia win luck? That kind of evidence?
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Come on man, stop derailing the conversation and answer my question.
You objected to the comment I made about this coach not having a single decent offense in his entire career. I figure he must have something to do with that. You disagree. What is the reason you think he hasn't had a decent offense in 5 1/2 seasons of running his own football team?
You objected to the comment I made about this coach not having a single decent offense in his entire career. I figure he must have something to do with that. You disagree. What is the reason you think he hasn't had a decent offense in 5 1/2 seasons of running his own football team?
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Was a typo. Should have read "people aren't."
I completely agree with his premise. Almost every presidential election is run on the premise of change. This is very similar. The majority of sidewalk fans just wanted the offense to be different. They were tired of watching Miles beat his head again the wall doing the same thing over and over again. They didn't care what the offense looked like, as long as it was different. Coach O is thriving on this by "changing" the offense every year and "improving it."
My issue with it is that I don't think he's changing with a true purpose. There is no set offensive identity that he's trying to achieve. It's like he started this project of changing the offense but he doesn't know what the end results should be and he's just hoping to find it along the way.
I completely agree with his premise. Almost every presidential election is run on the premise of change. This is very similar. The majority of sidewalk fans just wanted the offense to be different. They were tired of watching Miles beat his head again the wall doing the same thing over and over again. They didn't care what the offense looked like, as long as it was different. Coach O is thriving on this by "changing" the offense every year and "improving it."
My issue with it is that I don't think he's changing with a true purpose. There is no set offensive identity that he's trying to achieve. It's like he started this project of changing the offense but he doesn't know what the end results should be and he's just hoping to find it along the way.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:12 pm to Goldrush25
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stop derailing t
No ones derailing. You're just being called out over your obsession.
You've been going hard the past few days because the season is approaching fast.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
You're not making any sense.
Are you going to answer my question or not? Shouldn't be so hard for you seeing as you objected so quickly. You must have some ideas about why this coach hasn't had a decent offense yet.
Are you going to answer my question or not? Shouldn't be so hard for you seeing as you objected so quickly. You must have some ideas about why this coach hasn't had a decent offense yet.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:18 pm to Goldrush25
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Are you going to answer my question or not?
Which one?
About the idea you think Orgeron is holding the offense back, which you just made up over your obsession with the guy?
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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About the idea you think Orgeron is holding the offense back, which you just made up over your obsession with the guy?
I think he said that an Orgeron-coached team has never really had a good offense. He then drew his own quasi-concusion that it must have something to do with Orgeron himself and something he does or doesn't do. You can draw your own conclusions if you'd like.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Which one?
About the idea you think Orgeron is holding the offense back, which you just made up over your obsession with the guy?
It's my opinion. Of course it's made up.
You make up a whole lot of things. Am I supposed to have an opinion that's not made up?
My opinion is based on evidence. The evidence is that he hasn't had an offense worth a crap with any team he's coached.
What is your made up opinion on why he hasn't had any good offenses? I can't believe you can't answer this simple question, especially since you immediately objected to it. If you don't have a better answer than I do, just say so.
I've seen you go on for pages about how a HC, of course, has a strong voice in the direction of his offense, because that's his right. Now when I apply your premise to the fact that his offenses haven't been any good, you have a problem with it.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:23 pm to lsu2006
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I would bet all 3 will be factors in the offense's improvement. Just by nature of continuity of personnel, the offense is bound to improve at least a little bit. Hopefully Brady can implement some things which can modernize the passing game and play to its strengths and weaknesses and that will make the offense legitimately prolific and far more productive.
damn we actually agree
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:23 pm to lsu2006
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think he said that an Orgeron-coached team has never really had a good offense.
His USC offense rolled pretty good. It's didn't see him get in the way at that time
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
So you're using an interim year as evidence that he can run a good offense, and ignoring the other full years in which he ran his program?
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:27 pm to Goldrush25
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So you're using an interim year
Did you not say he always got involved?
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cannot help but think he has something to do with getting in the way of his offense's success.
What happened in 2013?
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:28 pm to Topwater Trout
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damn we actually agree
See what happens when you put aside the silly strawmen and stop trying to act like everyone is out to get Poor Ole O? I'm really not an unreasonable person.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 2:31 pm to Goldrush25
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Everything about this offense points to one that should be highly proficient,
I agree
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He hasn't had one decent offense in his entire career.quote]
I can't argue with that
[quote]. I cannot help but think he has something to do with getting in the way of his offense's success.
Your opinion...mine is he has learned from his past mistakes and is making decisions to improve our offense to one that we won't have to rely on defense to win games.
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