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re: Ed Orgeron and our fan base.

Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by Frogman93
Member since Jul 2021
1589 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:51 pm to
You’re probably one of the guys that predicted “Ed Orgeron will never win a national championship” or “Orgeron will be a complete failure.” So really who gives a shot what i dick head like you may or may not have predicted over a year ago?
Posted by Frogman93
Member since Jul 2021
1589 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:52 pm to
I can live with a different opinion. I can’t live with disrespecting the man.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:53 pm to
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So Kiffin is a good enough Coach to Make Ole Miss a threat, but Coach O wasn't? LSU is also clearly more talented than Ole Miss player wise. So are you saying they are a threat because they have better coaching?



All a person has to do is look at USC the season Kiffin was fired on the airport tarmac and what happened after Ed O took over.

That's why alum, players, media, etc, etc, etc were upset that USC didn't keep Coach O. The idiot that made the decision was half right - firing Kiffin.

From 2017: Haden has been fired by the way
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Ed Orgeron, USC’s interim football coach, had fans, alumni and players in his corner. But USC athletic director Pat Haden wasn’t impressed.

Lane Kiffin couldn’t win with the same players Orgeron won during an amazing run with the Trojans.

Haden will need to explain this one

Kessler, former USC Hesiman winner Marcus Allen and other alumni were on a futile campaign in backing Orgeron. Haden never was going to hire him


From Coach O to ‘Oh, no:’ USC spurns Ed Orgeron for Steve Sarkisian



From 2015
What Could Have Been If Ed Orgeron Was Named USC HC Instead of Steve Sarkisian


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Back on Nov. 20, 2013, months after Lane Kiffin was let go in the middle of the night, I wrote that Orgeron should be seriously considered for the USC head coaching gig.

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What if, instead of "resigning," Orgeron had been given the keys to this glorious Ferrari no one ever thought he would drive? He had, after all, ignited a lifeless program with a charismatic and captivating 6-2 finish.

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What if, after picking up the pieces left by Lane Kiffin, USC athletic director Pat Haden had ended the high-profile coaching search right then and there by removing the interim tag from the coach beloved by his players?

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That, however, is not the way this profession works. Well, in most cases.

USC was given that rare opportunity. The Trojans saw a coach bring an emotionally drained program back from the dead. They saw life. They saw wins. They saw the players rally. But instead of backing the success they seemingly stumbled into with, say, a modest two-year extension—a longer test drive, if you will—they decided to take a leap of faith
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NOBODY AT USC MISSED KIFFIN EVEN ONE LITTLE BIT!!!
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66113 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:54 pm to
Again you’re just making shite up because that’s all an idiot like you can do. I even defended him after Troy but why would you care to know something that actually happened when you can just keep trying to smear people with your lies.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85642 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:54 pm to
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I stopped being a Les Miles supporter when Miles blew that 21 point half time lead at home to a shitty Tennessee team in Tiger Stadium in 2006.


See. And some even said they could never support les because he wore a Madonna headset that night.

And that season we were the team dealing with the aftermath of katrina and rita.

Every program went through covid last season and will this season.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81898 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:55 pm to
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Indeed, everyone and their brother thought it was a fabulous hire at the time

False. There are plenty who didnt like it.
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not only did the former Bo Pelini players praise the hire

This matters none when evaluating a hire
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not only did the former Bo Pelini players praise the hire

Agreed. If every other team had to deal with those circumstances, that wouldve been okay. But covid was just an lsu problem.

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So how was the piss poor defense last year Bo Pelini or Ed O's fault? Did they have a crystal ball to predict the Covid Pandemic? You think Bo Pelini would have accepted the DC job at LSU had he known beforehand what was about to transpire?

So why did Ed fire him?
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:56 pm to
I don't care what you did, you dumb low-information moron and dedicated Ed O hater? Last year's defense wasn't Bo Pelini's or Ed O's fault. It was the fault of the Covid Pandemic you dumb low-information moron.

Indeed, I don't care who the DC was or who the HC at LSU was last year given the set if circumstances and the situation, it would have turned out exactly the same way no matter what.

You're not only an obsessed and very dedicated Ed O hater, but you are also a mega idiot at the same time.
Posted by LosTigres0810
Member since Mar 2019
64 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:57 pm to
Saban lost to UAB his first year with LSU

Les Miles gave up 4 td’s in the 4th qtr against Tennessee his first year.

Saban also lost to ULM his first year with Bama.

These things happen.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12437 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:58 pm to
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Indeed, as Ed O is a big fan of the 4 - 3 defense and everyone knows he is because he says it all the time. So, of course, Ed O thought the new defense would be better than the previous 3 - 4 2019 defense at the time he made that statement.

However, when Ed O made that statement on the first day of spring practice, how was he supposed to know that not only would the rest of spring practice subsequently be cancelled but that there would also be no summer workouts and player run practices, that fall camp would be abbreviated, and that all the coaching and teaching would have to be done via Zoom without any practice reps? 
False. You're spreading fake information in this thread just like you did in the Max vs Myles thread.

CEO said that quote in September of 2020. 247 Sports

Well after summer and at the end of fall camp. Quit trying to make up excuses for him. He said some stupid shite and it came back to bite him in the arse.
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 1:59 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295317 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:58 pm to
Whoever the next HC is will get the same treatment from the same crowd. Watch.

Its what they do.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66113 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:58 pm to
We all know you don’t care about facts or reality. All you care about is your delusions which are illustrated vividly in every false statement and beyond stupid post you make. You’re a clown
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30178 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 1:58 pm to
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I can’t live with disrespecting the man.



I can respect him as a coach and will be good with him staying as long as he wins and wins big.
10+ every year. SEC champion from time to time. Playoffs every so often.

I have less respect for him as a person actually.
Posted by Frogman93
Member since Jul 2021
1589 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:00 pm to
Covid wasn’t just an LSU problem. You’re ignoring the fact that half the damn team had left AND we had to deal with Covid. It was a culmination of a lot of things. Those 2 things along with losing your starting QB 3 games into the season. Yeah not an easy thing to overcome. It was a perfect storm.
Orgeron fired Pelini for a lot of reasons. Biggest being somebody’s head was gunna roll after a 5-5 season. No debate on that. 2. He couldn’t connect with the players anymore.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88342 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:01 pm to
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I have less respect for him as a person actually.


he does have sort of a seedy past and not so great a rep as a person, people can always change though, I suppose
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81898 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:01 pm to
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He couldn’t connect with the players anymore.


There was plenty of data to show that before the hire was made. Maybe he shouldve interviewed him. I know thats alot to ask of the head coach at lsu though
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:02 pm to
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Look there is no objective measure by which Ed Orgeron was a better coach that Tom Herman heading into offseason after 2016.


There were many. Tom Herman had the best team by far in his conference and lost/got creamed by way inferior teams to his. SMU a 23 point dog killed Cougar High and I mean absolutely KILLED Herman

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Now you can argue that LSU got lucky and was spurned by Herman and ended up with Ed but that by no means suggests that Ed was the better guy at the time.


Again, go take a gander at Herman's record at Houston. Then look at what Coach O had done at USC and LSU after taking over these programs while they were on the skids.

You are biased so you think Hotlips was the perfect candidate. I always thought he wasn't and Coach O was.

Guess who was and is right? Geaux on don't be shy, take a guess.
Posted by Frogman93
Member since Jul 2021
1589 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:02 pm to
Why do you not respect him as a person? Because he slept with a hot blonde and it got out?
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12437 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:03 pm to
Wasn't even talking to you, nor was that the point I was trying to make? You took wording way out of context to fit your narrative.

But anyway we should both be able to agree upon the fact that Kiffen at Ole Miss should never be a threat to CEO and LSU because CEO is a better coach and LSU is more talented.

Is that correct?
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 2:09 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295317 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:05 pm to
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You are biased so you think Hotlips was the perfect candidate


And they refused to believe he fricked us over.

People believe what they choose to believe. Even Ed winning a championship next season would leave these poor bastards out in the cold.

This season takes care of all the "future" questions.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 2:06 pm to
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Why do you not respect him as a person? Because he slept with a hot blonde and it got out?


This was answered on page 1 of this thread

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=97646570&s=2&p=97646362#97646570
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