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re: Ed Orgeron - (without) Joe Burrow: He has beaten 2 teams with a winning record
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:53 am to Topwater Trout
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:53 am to Topwater Trout
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Team was played a bunch of garbage teams after Miles was let go
FIFY
Against actual good teams, we got shut out at home by Bama and lost to a UF team that Les probably would have beaten. Some of yall are so blinded by hate that you can't have an ounce of rationality here. Les never was shut out by Bama at home, so maybe we win that 2-016 game where the defense held them to 10.
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Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:54 am to tygerphan
quote:
Cool...now do Dabo’s record without QBs that were 1st rd picks.
44-10 since 2011.
3 new years six bowls
1 playoff appearance
2 conference titles
that covers 4 different seasons since 2011 without a QB that was (or will be in case of Lawrence) drafted in first round.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:55 am to Nutriaitch
quote:
44-10 since 2011.
3 new years six bowls
1 playoff appearance
2 conference titles
that covers 4 different seasons since 2011 without a QB that was (or will be in case of Lawrence) drafted in first round.
Ouch
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:56 am to Nutriaitch
quote:
Cool...now do Dabo’s record without QBs that were 1st rd picks.
44-10 since 2011.
3 new years six bowls
1 playoff appearance
2 conference titles
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:57 am to Topwater Trout
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Sooooo, you agree it was Miles’ offense that ran all over the terrible offenses on our schedule??
who elses offense would it have been?
So why the hell did you try to call me out for “defending Miles” when I said O rode his running game to big games over shitty teams??
quote:
Team was much better after Miles was let go
The schedule had nothing to do with that, eh?
quote:
do you think CLKM should still be our coach?
Nope. I said after 2015 if we didn’t make it to ATL in 2016 he should be fired.
quote:
and would last year have happened with him?
No way to know obviously.
Can we play that game and ask if last season wouldn’t have happened without Burrow?
Because you guys seem to think that’s a silly argument. So why ask another hypothetical that’s even less easy to know?
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:00 am to Nutriaitch
quote:
Cool...now do Dabo’s record without QBs that were 1st rd picks.
44-10 since 2011.
3 new years six bowls
1 playoff appearance
2 conference titles
that covers 4 different seasons since 2011 without a QB that was (or will be in case of Lawrence) drafted in first round.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:04 am to draingaang
quote:
Our 2019 team could’ve won a Natty at Vanderbilt
Orgeron recruited a lot of those players (a number of them who were commited to go elsewhere at times), so you have to credit him there.
Also, a player like Justin Jefferson was only a 2-star and completely off the radar to people due to his academic issues, but Orgeron quietly kept a scholarship open for him if he was able to qualify and the guy ended up being a complete superstar WR. Other guys like CEH were unsure if LSU would still honor the scholarship offer when Orgeron took over and he not only wanted him, but I remember him talking up CEH more than a lot of better known players when the most people weren't excited about him due to his size or knew very little about him because he wasn't a mega-recruit as far as recruit ratings go.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:06 am to Tiger Voodoo
quote:
So why the hell did you try to call me out for “defending Miles”
because you always defend him
quote:
Can we play that game and ask if last season wouldn’t have happened without Burrow?
sure...no chance in hell
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:07 am to Nutriaitch
quote:
that covers 4 different seasons since 2011 without a QB that was (or will be in case of Lawrence) drafted in first round.
oh, forgot to add:
finished in top 15 in country in total offense 3 of those 4 years.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:09 am to Nutriaitch
must be nice playing in the ACC
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:10 am to Topwater Trout
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must be nice playing in the ACC
man y’all go thru some lengths it’s astounding. Yet when Dabo plays the SEC he does pretty damn good. Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:10 am to Topwater Trout
quote:like you with Orgeron
because you always defend him
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:13 am to Topwater Trout
quote:
quote: So why the hell did you try to call me out for “defending Miles”
because you always defend him
Like you always “defend” O?
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Can we play that game and ask if last season wouldn’t have happened without Burrow?
sure...no chance in hell
Then why do so many get so bent out of shape when a thread talking about O’s record without Burrow?
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:26 am to Tiger Voodoo
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Then why do so many get so bent out of shape when a thread talking about O’s record without Burrow?
I'm not...I really don't see the point though
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:30 am to Topwater Trout
Well the point is trying to determine if the success from last year is sustainable. That’s a valid concern and worth analyzing.
The analysis doesn’t bode well for O or the program under his watch.
The analysis doesn’t bode well for O or the program under his watch.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:43 am to TotalPotato
Orgeron has beaten zero teams with winning records without Justin Jefferson. What does it mean?
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:57 am to TotalPotato
That's a very powerful statistic. Nicely done.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 11:14 am to LNCHBOX
Well if you cant give him credit for Burrow and last season, how can you blame all of this stuff on him.
You can't cherry pick what he is responsible for. That is just dumb. Win as a team, lose as a team should be the same logic.
You can't cherry pick what he is responsible for. That is just dumb. Win as a team, lose as a team should be the same logic.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 11:14 am to Penrod
Posted on 12/10/20 at 11:16 am to SpillwayRoyalty
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Well if you cant give him credit for Burrow and last season, how can you blame all of this stuff on him.
ok, better question.
if you can heap price on him for last year, then why can't you lay complete blame for this epic shite show at his feet as well?
quote:
You can't cherry pick what he is responsible for
then throw all the excuses out the window.
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