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re: Dylan Crews is good

Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:07 am to
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:07 am to
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It's still hella early in this season and we're playing cupcakes, but there was no point in Bregman's freshman season where he was considered an all-american... Crews is playing like one of the best players in the game right now.




You have got to be kidding...


Bregman's freshman season:

2013 National Freshman of the Year (Collegiate Baseball, Baseball America, NCBWA)
2013 National Shortstop of the Year (Brooks Wallace Award)
2013 First-Team All-American (Baseball America, ABCA, Perfect Game)
2013 SEC Freshman of the Year
2013 First-Team All-SEC



You're fired.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 4:09 am
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:21 am to
Factually incorrect by i understood his point. Bregs also had the benefit of being on a team with a loaded offense with guys like rhymes and katz.
Crews is the guy on this team offensively.
Posted by Broham
Crowley
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:44 am to
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He's the downvoter

Wasn't me. I think he'll be better than Bregman myself.
Posted by Broham
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:44 am to
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Broham never traveled north of Lafayette

Dude is full of shite

Yeah ok
Posted by Chalkywhite84
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:46 am to
Wait, the elleshoe guy says he played college ball at lsu?
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 1:01 pm to


This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 1:02 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 1:05 pm to
Those on teepublic?
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 1:07 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 1:08 pm
Posted by The Ostrich
Member since May 2009
2540 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:06 pm to
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He might just be. But Bregman, the freshman, was also better than Bregman the sophomore and junior. He was great his freshman year, and particularly was blistering hot in the first half. And this was when offense was still way down in college baseball before they changed the balls. We had every reason to believe he was going to be the best hitter ever at LSU... Until he wasn't (though he was still very good, of


I'm far from being an Alex Bregman fan but I gotta disagree. Just cause he didn't break out and have a 15hr and hit .400 doesn't mean he didn't improve. Yea sure his avg/hits took a dip but he showed significant improvement in other areas. Scouts love the guy who's glamour stats like AVG HR XBH show consistency or slight progression and the real jumps happen in areas that don't get as much attention.

In 2015 he had 38 Stolen Bases vs a combined 28 in the previous season, 17 more walks/HBP, with his power numbers all staying either par or slightly progressing. The the biggest improvements were on defense where he not only made less errors but fielded roughly 40 more groundball outs than he averaged the 2 season before.

IMO when a guy's numbers move like that it's a pretty good sign of a someone who's got a real shot at playing for a long time. Guy's who know their swing and are willing to adapt their approach as teams scout them and learn their weaknesses and strengths then work at the details like becoming a serious threat on the base path or increasing range and working on the glove.

Posted by Tiger2411
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2019
33 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:13 pm to
agree 100% and it really shows how much more advanced he is for college ball by his stats he is putting out . no one on team is even close to touching his stats. may be early but his talent is overwhelming easy to spot. so happy he is a tiger. i am on "Crews Bandwagon"
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:17 pm to
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Factually incorrect by i understood his point. Bregs also had the benefit of being on a team with a loaded offense with guys like rhymes and katz.
Crews is the guy on this team offensively.




He has good players in front of him. And being an All American has nothing to do with being on a good team. It was a dumb statement by him, period. No reason to try to defend what he said.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 4:27 pm to
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I'm far from being an Alex Bregman fan but I gotta disagree. Just cause he didn't break out and have a 15hr and hit .400 doesn't mean he didn't improve. Yea sure his avg/hits took a dip but he showed significant improvement in other areas. Scouts love the guy who's glamour stats like AVG HR XBH show consistency or slight progression and the real jumps happen in areas that don't get as much attention.

In 2015 he had 38 Stolen Bases vs a combined 28 in the previous season, 17 more walks/HBP, with his power numbers all staying either par or slightly progressing. The the biggest improvements were on defense where he not only made less errors but fielded roughly 40 more groundball outs than he averaged the 2 season before.

IMO when a guy's numbers move like that it's a pretty good sign of a someone who's got a real shot at playing for a long time. Guy's who know their swing and are willing to adapt their approach as teams scout them and learn their weaknesses and strengths then work at the details like becoming a serious threat on the base path or increasing range and working on the glove.





He improved defensively. That's a different discussion. Offensively, he did not. He didn't improve as a base stealer over time, he simply attempted more after some big boppers were no longer around him. He was always a good base runner. The uptick in walks were a product of teams pitching around him more. And he had a good eye, so I'm certainly not criticizing that part of his game. I'm only saying it wasn't an area of any real improvement. The biggest reason why his average declined is that he regressed from his all fields approach as a freshman, and became almost a dead-pull hitter. He was constantly lining out to left field, and you couldn't really call it bad luck after a while, because he was being pitched and played to pull, and he continually obliged.

In spite of all of that, he was still good enough to put up very good numbers. That's why I said he was still a very good player. But he never made that jump that we were expecting after his freshman year. Until he hit the minors, of course.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 4:28 pm
Posted by The Ostrich
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:43 pm to
I think you need to go check the roster for the 2015 team cause that lineup was fricking stacked.

All you did was restate your opinion without any facts but dress it up all nice and fancy so it sounds good.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 3:57 am to
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I think you need to go check the roster for the 2015 team cause that lineup was fricking stacked.


That "stacked" lineup was missing the likes of Raph Rhymes and Mason Katz, who were monster hitters in Bregman's freshman year. You don't risk running into outs with guys like that at the plate. But his base running was clearly evident whenever he was allowed to run. That, however, never really had anything to do with my original point, and I only addressed it because you decided to bring it up.

quote:

All you did was restate your opinion without any facts but dress it up all nice and fancy so it sounds good.


Without any facts? Did his batting average not decrease? Did he not clearly pull the ball far more often after his freshman year, resulting in teams playing him to pull and robbing himself of would-be hits? You are the one who tried to "dress up" Bregman's lack of progress from freshman to junior year, at the plate, but saying "yeah, but he did this thing and that thing", but you left out any context for those stats, and the stats, themselves, were not signs of marked improvement, even at face value. The fact is that as good as he was as a freshman, you would think that by his junior year he would have clearly advanced in all areas. And he didn't. Not only did his average dip, he also never really came close to fully tapping into the power many of us believed he had (which we can clearly see now that he has). And I say that to remind everyone who is saying that Crews is better than Bregman, that they are forgetting how good Bregman was as a freshman, how we all thought he was surely going to leave here as the most decorated player in LSU history, and how we were all wrong about that. Though he was a really good player, he was nowhere near guys like Walker, Cresse and Furniss at this level. He may be the best pro player to come out of here, though. Funny how that works.

Crews certainly looks the part. But let's see how he adjusts to teams after they adjust to him. I have no problem saying he MIGHT be the best player we've ever had. I say things like that every few years about a player in some sport. It's the "he's better than Bregman, and it's really not even close" statements that compelled me to comment.

I'm glad you thought what I said sounded good, though. I didn't think my words sounded fancy. I thought it was just a standard comment.
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