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re: Draft Express new scouting evaluation on Simmons

Posted on 3/19/16 at 11:42 am to
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 11:42 am to
Fair or unfair to him, Simmons came into this season with the hype of a LeBron or Kobe type player. What we got was not on the level of that hype. Again, Simmons did not hype himself and I don't blame him. He had a lot of great skills you do not see in players today, including unselfish play, passing and dribbling skills. But he has absolutely the worst shot of any player I have ever seen at any level in basketball. And that is a huge problem if he never develops one.
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11515 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 11:45 am to
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But he has absolutely the worst shot of any player I have ever seen at any level in basketball. And that is a huge problem if he never develops one.


That seems a bit hyperbolic.
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
3610 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 11:49 am to
It was for dramatic effect. I will narrow it down a bit further. I have followed LSU basketball all my life and not one player that I have watched in my 41 years has had a worse shot than Simmons. So if I limit it to past LSU players, it still holds true.
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11515 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 11:50 am to
Elbert Robertson? Darcy Malone? Ben Voogd? Shaq?
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 11:55 am to
He doesn't even have the worst shooting form on this LSU team. You are just talking out of your arse
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
3610 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 11:55 am to
From what I saw of him where he took an outside shot this year, yes, yes, yes and yes.

Simmons shoots free throws better than Shaq did. But that isn't saying much. Talking about straight jump shots.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37072 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 11:59 am to
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Simmons was a horrible perimieter defender also, he got beat for threes, and lay-ups consistently when guarding the perimeter. Those little guys burned him.

He doesnt move his feet at all, and is late.
You are mixing up your alters. A month ago Simmons was one of the best players you have ever seen.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37072 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 12:00 pm to
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From what I saw of him where he took an outside shot this year, yes, yes, yes and yes.

Simmons shoots free throws better than Shaq did. But that isn't saying much. Talking about straight jump shots.
You are just lying now. Shaq a better jump shooter.
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11515 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 12:01 pm to
Simmons undoubtably needs to improve his jumper and I imagine he will, but even as it is now if you would rather rely on Elbert Robinson or Shaq to hit a jumper than Ben, I really don't even know what to say to that.
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
6614 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 12:01 pm to
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majicalky


Bruh.
Posted by AGENT225
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
681 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 12:02 pm to
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Elbert Robertson? Darcy Malone? Ben Voogd? Shaq?


Add Tim Quarterman's freshman year.

I've been critical of Simmons for not being aggressive enough at times. That said the dude led LSU in points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blks. That's a far cry from the bust some here try and insinuate.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16714 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 12:23 pm to
I think it'll be a few years before Ben avg more than 15ppg in the NBA.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55933 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 12:31 pm to
It's amazing how many people on this site basically hate Simmons.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 12:32 pm to
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People like you need to stop it. He was better than Martin or Mickey. He put up numbers we will never, ever see a freshman do again at LSU, or possibly anywhere. This team tanked because Johnny just didn't have clue #1 how to get them to play together or give effort more than 50% of the time.



It's possible to say that Simmons was really good, that Jones screwed up, and that Simmons could have done better and tried harder at times.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89772 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 12:32 pm to
It's amazing how many people on this site are stupid, miserable twats with misguided opinions
This post was edited on 3/19/16 at 12:34 pm
Posted by Captain Want
Member since Nov 2009
2174 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 12:39 pm to
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He put up numbers we will never, ever see a freshman do again at LSU, or possibly anywhere.


This is true because no player of Simmons' caliber is coming anytime soon to LSU after how poorly this season went, with national media saying he would've been better off at Kentucky or Duke. A lot of that falls on Johnny Jones. This season was such a disaster.
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 12:41 pm to
That is pure nonsense. He made his FIRST jump shot in SIX games against A&M. That's not better than Mickey or Martin. They played with heart. I would take Martin or Mickey any day over Simmons .
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36601 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 12:42 pm to
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I think Mickey has the most upside of all of them if he develops an outside shot.
No, he doesn't.
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 12:43 pm to
I don't think people hate Simmons. I think they just expected him to lead LSU to have a much better season than we did. It's more frustration.
Posted by DiehardLSUZach
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2013
1183 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 12:49 pm to
Get over it!!!
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