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Posted on 11/9/08 at 6:58 pm to tigerfan25
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Yeah, Miles threw 4 ints including pick6, and one in overtime, missed a fG, oh and also dropped 4 passes including one that would have went for a TD. Give me a break!
ummm...so under that assumption, we shouldn't give credit to miles for the national championship, right? at what point is it a coach's fault? the coach is responsible for putting the right players on the field at the right time and in the right position (with the right play calling) to put the players in a position to win or lose the game. thus far this season, he is not doing that. he makes too many boneheaded decisions. last year, everybody was talking about how great he was with all his gambles (4th down, etc..). this year, the percentages are evening out and people are saying it is not his fault. you can't give him credit when things go great, but then say it is not his fault when they do not.
i am happy miles is here, but i was disappointed when he was first hired. 28-21 record at oklahoma st is not that impressive to me (look at them now). i was also a little disappointed that he did not take the michigan job.
Posted on 11/9/08 at 7:05 pm to Pearneax
It's hard for me to blame the coaches for Lee's interceptions.
Go back and look at the films from Saturday (TIVO for me). I see passes 8 feet over the hands of the nearest receiver. I see passes thrown into already present double coverage. I see passes thrown into turn routes a good four counts AFTER the turn (by then the waterboy could have made the interception.)
I can't blame Miles for Lee's execution or lack thereof. Now for Lee's presence on the field, yes I can blame Miles for that. They'd played Bama closer running the Wild Tiger and Lee riding the pine.
Should have heard Jordy Hultberg's show tonight on WWL. The Receiver's Coach was on and he was blaming HIS guys for the picks. Blaming Byrd for that pass that went way over his head, for example.
It's an insult to the receivers. Even the passes the dropped Lee threw the ball into the wrong spot so the receivers had to take huge hits after the ball hit their hands. QB's are supposed to protect their WR's from that sort of thing.
So I don't blame Miles for Lee's poor execution. I do blame him for Lee's presence on the field.
Go back and look at the films from Saturday (TIVO for me). I see passes 8 feet over the hands of the nearest receiver. I see passes thrown into already present double coverage. I see passes thrown into turn routes a good four counts AFTER the turn (by then the waterboy could have made the interception.)
I can't blame Miles for Lee's execution or lack thereof. Now for Lee's presence on the field, yes I can blame Miles for that. They'd played Bama closer running the Wild Tiger and Lee riding the pine.
Should have heard Jordy Hultberg's show tonight on WWL. The Receiver's Coach was on and he was blaming HIS guys for the picks. Blaming Byrd for that pass that went way over his head, for example.
It's an insult to the receivers. Even the passes the dropped Lee threw the ball into the wrong spot so the receivers had to take huge hits after the ball hit their hands. QB's are supposed to protect their WR's from that sort of thing.
So I don't blame Miles for Lee's poor execution. I do blame him for Lee's presence on the field.
Posted on 11/9/08 at 7:09 pm to mbertaut
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They'd played Bama closer running the Wild Tiger and Lee riding the pine.
the game was tied at the end of regulation...
Posted on 11/9/08 at 7:11 pm to mbertaut
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So I don't blame Miles for Lee's poor execution. I do blame him for Lee's presence on the field.
agreed, execution is not the coach. preparation, game planning, in-game decision making, play calling, etc. is. and, thus far this season, he is average at best. i believe saban is one of the best (if not the best) at all of the above.
Posted on 11/9/08 at 7:17 pm to jepmyers
Why are immature geeks obsessed with finding fault with one of the best performing football programs this decade?
Posted on 11/9/08 at 7:20 pm to Bad Cat
Hmmmmm, I might even be one of the "immature geeks" but truth be told I'm hurting for the rest of the team, who I believe gave a Top 5 performance this Saturday only to have it stolen from them by bad decision making and poor execution by one very talented kid who is continually being asked to do things he's obviously not ready to do (13-34-4).
Second, I'm hurting for the season ticket holders and TAF folks, who have coughed up the $74M required to run LSU football this year and deserve better.
And third, I'm hurting for me, because I have no more shoes to throw at the TV (not good for the plasma) and my blood pressure med is just not doing it for me any more!
Second, I'm hurting for the season ticket holders and TAF folks, who have coughed up the $74M required to run LSU football this year and deserve better.
And third, I'm hurting for me, because I have no more shoes to throw at the TV (not good for the plasma) and my blood pressure med is just not doing it for me any more!
Posted on 11/9/08 at 7:26 pm to mbertaut
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Hmmmmm, I might even be one of the "immature geeks" but truth be told I'm hurting for the rest of the team, who I believe gave a Top 5 performance this Saturday only to have it stolen from them by bad decision making and poor execution by one very talented kid who is continually being asked to do things he's obviously not ready to do (13-34-4).
Second, I'm hurting for the season ticket holders and TAF folks, who have coughed up the $74M required to run LSU football this year and deserve better.
Well said, and correct.
Posted on 11/9/08 at 7:29 pm to mbertaut
We should be the favorite to win the SEC West and win the SEC next year, so you will have to ruff it for the remainder of the season. 
Posted on 11/9/08 at 7:34 pm to Pearneax
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execution is not the coach. preparation, game planning, in-game decision making, play calling, etc. is. and, thus far this season, he is average at best. i believe saban is one of the best (if not the best) at all of the above.
you guys are too much...miles is doing nothing different from last year. big difference in talent and experience and with RP quitting what should have been a plus became a minus. saban...yeah right, you've got a short memory hoss...does UAB ring a bell...does Arkansas and Iowa ring a bell...does UL-Monroe ring a bell...does a missed chip-shot field goal yesterday ring a bell (and now we all know why Miles had Matt throw to Bird last yr.) Miles outcoached Saban yesterday and Saban knows it. any time something goes wrong some of you guys have to lay blame...leave the blame to small children and the clergy and just accept the fact that you can't win a natcham every year.
Posted on 11/9/08 at 7:52 pm to byubengalboy
Well...Lee doesn't strike me as a tough guy (but I don't know)...and just where the hell will we be when Lee gets hurt? JJ has lost his redshirt...and if he is that bad, for what? Miles had better have him on the field every chance that he gets. Both guys need the reps...BOTH; and if Miles neglects to give JJ some significant time against Troy...then he will be up for some legitimate criticism.
Posted on 11/9/08 at 7:56 pm to jepmyers
I don't blame Lee and I don't blame Miles. I blame your parents for giving birth to u.
Posted on 11/9/08 at 8:03 pm to byubengalboy
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you guys are too much...miles is doing nothing different from last year. big difference in talent and experience and with RP quitting what should have been a plus became a minus. saban...yeah right, you've got a short memory hoss...does UAB ring a bell...does Arkansas and Iowa ring a bell...does UL-Monroe ring a bell...does a missed chip-shot field goal yesterday ring a bell (and now we all know why Miles had Matt throw to Bird last yr.)
see, you go back to the talent and experience factor, and then you throw out saban losing to those teams. did experience and talent not play a role in those games? you can't have it both ways. saban is a better coach. you may not like him, but he is a better coach. i bet most experts would agree with this.
let me ask you this....how much improved will we be next year? we lose a significant potion of our o-line (possibly everybody but barksdale), so now we will have lee with an inexperienced line. you really think we will be that much improved next year?
Posted on 11/9/08 at 8:05 pm to mbertaut
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Second, I'm hurting for the season ticket holders and TAF folks, who have coughed up the $74M required to run LSU football this year and deserve better.
they don't "deserve" anything beyond the enjoyment of watching young men play a game and the pride of a well-ran program. if they think they "deserve" something beyond the normal ebb and flow of the game, then they need to re-assess their values.
(and yes, I realize it's a business)
Posted on 11/9/08 at 8:07 pm to Pearneax
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i was also a little disappointed that he did not take the michigan job.
who could LSU have gotten that would have been any better?
Posted on 11/9/08 at 8:13 pm to usc6158
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who could LSU have gotten that would have been any better?
like i said, 'a little disappointed' and not completely as there may not have been anybody available that would have been better.
Posted on 11/9/08 at 8:20 pm to mbertaut
quote:deserve better than what? this is far from our worst season ever, and not that far below expectations.
Second, I'm hurting for the season ticket holders and TAF folks, who have coughed up the $74M required to run LSU football this year and deserve better.
honestly, did you expect a repeat? did you expect us to be fl and ga this year? i hoped we would beat them, but did not expect it.
bama has surprised some people this year, so we can't feel like this was an upset or something. ill take where we are any year over losing to UAB.
i hope you stay off the bandwagon, leaves more room for me
Posted on 11/9/08 at 8:20 pm to Fighting Tigers
i agree
Posted on 11/9/08 at 8:27 pm to lsujro
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deserve better than what? this is far from our worst season ever, and not that far below expectations.
i agree that i thought we would lose 2-3 games this year. so from a pure record perspective, they are meeting my expectations (although we still have several games remaining). what does not meet my expectations is the way we are losing. is it meeting your expectations?
Posted on 11/9/08 at 9:01 pm to tigerbait5189
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umm not loaded at the reciever position. next year maybe but this year no. average at best
You're saying that Byrd and LaFell are average at best? How do you figure next years WR's will be so outstanding with Byrd and LaFell gone (assuming LaFell enters the draft)?
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