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re: Does not wanting CEO as the head coach make me a bad LSU fan?

Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:04 pm to
Posted by Jeff Goldblum
Gardner, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1058 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:04 pm to
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Does not wanting CEO as the head coach make me a bad LSU fan?


Yes. You're a turrible person and your Mama doesn't love you anymoe
Posted by Mudflap007
The big D
Member since Sep 2013
216 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:04 pm to
Not wanting to settle on a head coach that hasn't won it all repeatedly is not bad... but it is not realistic to think every possible candidate is salivating for a phone call from LSU.

It's the downside of firing the second best guy in the toughest conference.

Yet here we are.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18758 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:05 pm to
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You don't think LSU can do better than a position coach they picked up off the street a couple of years ago?


You make it sound like Coach O is a grad assistant or some High School coach they grabbed. He's been a coach and recruiter for a long long time. Had one bad stint as a head coach, but bounced back and put together a nice run in the interim at USC. Right now he is saying the right things, appears to have learned from past mistakes at Ole Miss, and there has been a noticeable improvement to our team.

Look, a head coach needs to be a manager, leader, and the face of our program. However, he's only as good as the guys around him. If he can recruit top talent (proven) and get quality coaches (See Pete Jenkins) then I don't know that LSU needs a big name X's & O's type coach.

So no, I'm not being subjective in my thought that Coach O can be a great fit for our program.
Posted by MoneyShot
Member since Jan 2013
4319 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:10 pm to
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Had one bad stint as a head coach, but bounced back and put together a nice run in the interim at USC.


Yet no one picked him up as a position coach or otherwise until LSU called him a year and a half later.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18758 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:11 pm to
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He resigned from SC on December 2nd, 2013. He joined LSU on January 14th, 2015.

I'll let you do the math.


He had an emotional ride at USC, was offered to be retained on the coaching staff, but felt too devastated to stick around after he wasn't hired as the head coach.

The man then sits out a year for any number of reasons, probably trying to do a little soul searching, and you think that LSU simply scooped him up one year later off the street like he was some recently fired dip shite?
Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:11 pm to
I would say yes as it means you have turned your back on the team and this season. If it means that Coach Orgeron becomes the head coach next season because we run the table and win our next seven games, then I am all for that.

We have a number of young men who returned for this season when they could have gone to the NFL after last season. I am not ready to throw away this season just so someone can or cannot be the head coach next year.

Here, someone else can now have the soap box
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18758 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:12 pm to
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Yet no one picked him up


Do you actually know that no one provided him any other offers?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
37688 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:14 pm to
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Had one bad stint as a head coach


That's an understatement. At our rival no less.

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bounced back and put together a nice run in the interim at USC


Where he lost two his two biggest rivals.

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So no, I'm not being subjective in my thought that Coach O can be a great fit for our program.



You are being the literal definition of subjective.

If Coach O is the best we can do given the amount of money we can throw around, then the reality is that we aren't a top 5 or top 10 job.
Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:16 pm to
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Yet no one picked him up as a position coach or otherwise until LSU called him a year and a half later.
He had a number of offers after leaving USC and decided to sit out a year, regroup and watch the twins play high school ball together.
Posted by KennabraTiger
Kenner, LA
Member since Sep 2013
7213 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:16 pm to
You aren't a bad fan. You are a logical one that isn't going ape shite after wins against Mizzou and USM. Let Coach O finish out the year and then pass judgement. He's done a good job so far, but even he acknowledged the competition is about to get tougher.
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4385 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:17 pm to
Lyle !There isn't any better , that is why the greatest coach in LSU history brought him here !
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7520 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:19 pm to
No but wait till you see how we handle The next five games. If we win Every game , but lose to Bama in a 41-45 shoot out then I think he has a chance. If we lose two games I say we go another route.
Posted by MoneyShot
Member since Jan 2013
4319 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:24 pm to
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Do you actually know that no one provided him any other offers?


Do you actually know that did, because I haven't heard of one before or since he resigned.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 10:26 pm
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18758 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:29 pm to
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That's an understatement.


Perhaps, but do you not 1) Think he can learn from his mistakes and 2) Not see a marked change in his coaching philosophy?

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At our rival no less.


Irrelevant

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Where he lost two his two biggest rivals.


You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shite.

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You are being the literal definition of subjective.


I'm not being emotional. There is no rah-rah in my previous post. I think he's got a very nice track record in many aspects of his career. He's shown the ability to improve and knows how to be a leader.

I'll admit that I don't know that he's necessarily a long term solution. It'll be interesting to see how things go once the emotion wears off.


Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:30 pm to
Luckily none of you dickbags have a say.

So just sit back and be a fan
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14107 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:31 pm to
1. Tom Herman...if he will not take our job, then

2. Jimbo Fisher
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29720 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:32 pm to
It makes you smart in my eyes
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68297 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:32 pm to
It just makes you tone deaf. He's going to be the coach. He's already won the job if you listen to what the pundits are saying. He's the Cajun Pete Carroll. It's set in stone so get used to it.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 10:33 pm
Posted by Dlab2013
Pineville, Luzianna
Member since Jun 2013
9219 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:34 pm to
Go look up Les Miles record at OSU.......... . That guy did pretty good here and he was nothing more than a recruiter with quality assistants........
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:40 pm to
You people are fools I swear. Orgeron has LSU playing better than they have in years and y'all are stuck on some guy you really don't know a whole lot about other than he's the hot new name that has Houston playing well. Has Houston been playing well the last two weeks?? shite, they lost to Navy. Lol. Be careful what you ask for when you already have a good coach who is also a helluva recruiter in the safe house.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 10:43 pm
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