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re: Does not wanting CEO as the head coach make me a bad LSU fan?

Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:12 pm to
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:12 pm to
Houston fricking Nutt was a terrible coach. It wasn't because of the players.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:12 pm to
So your argument for hiring him is that he isn't les miles?

You realize every candidate will have that quality right?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:14 pm to
So was Ed O, from a 3 year period where it is apparently alright for O to be bad but not alright for Nutt to be bad.
Posted by bigoyster
Mobile, AL
Member since Jun 2009
623 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:16 pm to
Hey I don't have a dog in this fight. I come here for entertainment, but lately this place is absolutely hateful. At least let the guy lose a game before you crucify him.

Herman's record is not against opponents the caliber of those Orgeron faced in any of his head coaching jobs.

He admitted that he made mistakes. Are you employed? If so how long in your profession? Are you not better now than when you started?

You seem in love with Herman. How many top level teams has he beaten? You are making an uneven comparison. You are not even pretending to have an open mind.

Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:18 pm to
Man hire the frick who y'all want I don't care. All y'all are doing is being procrastinators about a guy that is a really good coach. A proven motivator and recruiter. He is a much better coach than Les Miles ever will be.
Posted by 7nette
Member since Nov 2015
4909 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:19 pm to
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You seem in love with Herman. How many top level teams has he beaten? You are making an uneven comparison. You are not even pretending to have an open mind.



He has more ranked wins than Coach O has in 1/4th the amount of time as a HC. Do YOU even know who he's beaten compared to Coach O's current wins as a HC?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:21 pm to
He certainly hasn't proved it where it counts, in the W-L record. Miles only had 1 losing season his whole career. How many did O have again?

Also why are you acting like we have any control? We are just talking.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112311 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:24 pm to
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is a really good coach.


I agree he's a great DLine coach. Hope we can keep him in that position

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A proven motivator


Over short periods of time, yes proven. Has he shown the ability to sustain that anywhere?

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And recruiter


We won't have a better recruiting staff than we've had the past couple years, where has it gotten us? We need a player developer and a guy that can build a game plan against the best of the best

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A much better coach than miles ever was


Based on your comments in this thread and in previous ones you've been in, it's safe to say you think Miles is an awful awful coach

So is that our bar? Just being better than Miles which you say was an awful football coach? LSU is a top 5-10 job, our standards should be higher.
Posted by Dr. 3
Member since Mar 2005
11353 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:27 pm to
So lets say Ed runs the table and wins the SEC...you still wouldnt consider him?
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:30 pm to
If you are ranked in the top 10 and lose to a service academy, you're disqualified. That's how stupid your coach O ole miss argument is fwiw.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112311 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:32 pm to
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Does not wanting CEO as the head coach make me a bad LSU fan? by tigerpimpbot
If you are ranked in the top 10 and lose to a service academy, you're disqualified. That's how stupid your coach O ole miss argument is fwiw.




You want to compare a coach that has won a BCS bowl and only lost 2 games as a head coach to a guy who has 3 straight losing seasons and started off a season 0-8?

This has to be a troll. I've seen you post before, you aren't this stupid.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:33 pm to
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He is a much better coach than Les Miles ever will be.


At this point, this statement is completely without merit.
Posted by bigoyster
Mobile, AL
Member since Jun 2009
623 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:33 pm to
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Do YOU even know who he's beaten compared to Coach O's current wins as a HC?





Make up your damn mind. Just a minute ago you were smashing Orgeron for his past failures. Now you change the dynamic to recently. If you you use that as the basis to prove your point, then, how many top teams did Herman beat years ago?

You won't even give Orgeron a chance. Since all of you want him shite canned the day the season ends, why is he busting his arse to put a good product on the field? "Thanks for the victories, Ed. Now get your happy arse put of here so we can hire the latest pretty face."

Ok I'm done. This isn't entertaining. You people are incapable of carrying on a reasoned conversation.
Posted by TigerBert
Member since Oct 2015
3018 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:33 pm to
Not rooting for LSU to run the tables, with CEO at the helm, which would result in his winning the job, WOULD make you a bad LSU fan
Posted by irnfan
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2013
1442 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:33 pm to
So if O takes a 2 loss LSU team with no offensive production and still manages to coach them up to an SEC championship, then he is still unproven?

But if Herman takes his highest ranked team ever, loses to Navy along the way, and makes it to a decent bowl, he's proven? Right, that makes perfect sense.

Also, O is LSU's current recruiting coordinator, so you can't make the argument that he's not a proven recruiter either.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:35 pm to
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So lets say Ed runs the table and wins the SEC...you still wouldnt consider him?



I wouldn't personally. He can get a job somewhere else and earn his chance like everyone else.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112311 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:36 pm to
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Thanks for the victories, Ed. Now get your happy arse put of here so we can hire the latest pretty face."


More like "thanks for doing what you do best. Sorry you aren't qualified for this job, but we'd love to keep you as assistant HC and recruiting coordinator, and of course you are free to pursue other head coaching opportunities to prove us wrong"
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:37 pm to
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why is he busting his arse to put a good product on the field?


Because that is his job. He's an interim head coach.

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"Thanks for the victories, Ed. Now get your happy arse put of here so we can hire the latest pretty face."



Yes pretty much.

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If you you use that as the basis to prove your point, then, how many top teams did Herman beat years ago?



Last year, Herman beat four ranked teams.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112311 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:38 pm to
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So if O takes a 2 loss LSU team with no offensive production and still manages to coach them up to an SEC championship, then he is still unproven? But if Herman takes his highest ranked team ever, loses to Navy along the way, and makes it to a decent bowl, he's proven? Right, that makes perfect sense.


That's one hell of a fallacy


You're comparing an accomplish that hasn't been made yet versus one aspect of Hermans career

Let's just ignore that frickin BCS bowl he just won at a mid major. The navy loss just erases that.
Posted by 7nette
Member since Nov 2015
4909 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:39 pm to
By current I mean all time... up until now. As in he has 2 ranked wins over almost 4 1/2 seasons as a HC. One of them against the Mighty Fresno State Bulldogs! But yeah, I'm the one being unreasonable for pointing this out.
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