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re: Does LF rush for 1800 yards this season?

Posted on 7/22/15 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 4:31 pm to
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That's a ton of yards. If he averages 5 per carry he's going need about 27 carries per game. I don't see him getting the rock that much but it's not impossible

It may have been said already but if not I'll say it, he needs to average well over 5 ypc or he's not the player he was billed as coming out of high school. I think he needs to average 6.

Tre Mason averaged 5.8 for his entire career at Auburn. I see no reason why a "once in a generation" player can't average 6 ypc after averaging 5.5 his freshman year.

1800 yards is great. All American worthy. It's also a reasonable expectation for a player of his caliber. I'm looking forward to seeing him do it.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 4:38 pm
Posted by chilge1
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 4:32 pm to
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That's making it to the national championship game. You really think that's a legitimate possibility???


We'll be 8-0 heading into November... we're more talented than Alabama for the first time since '11, and we end the season against frickin' Ole Miss, Aggie, and Arkansas. SEC Championship has been in favor of the West since Tebow and Harvin....

So yeah, I'd say its a legitimate possibility.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 4:36 pm to
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It may have been said already but if not I'll say it, he needs to average well over 5 ypc or he's not the player he was billed as coming out of high school. I think he needs to average 6.

Tre Mason averaged 5.8 for his entire career at Auburn. I see no reason why no reason a "once in a generation" player can't average 6 ypc after averaging 5.5 his freshman year.

1800 yards is great. All American worthy. It's also a reasonable expectation for a player of his caliber. I'm looking forward to seeing him do it.



Another thing is I think he's the "type" of back that Les likes. I could see him getting more carries than the premier back in usual years because of his style of running.
Posted by earl keese
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 4:37 pm to
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Now LF will be a stud but may get worn out by getting crushed because of the bad QB play LSU will experience this year.


I didn't realize you were the QB coach, dukke v.

Seriously though, no one truly knows what kind of season the quarterbacks are going to have this coming year. It's possible that they might have crummy stats like last year, but it's also possible that whoever plays the position, has a good to great year.

I don't know how well or how bad the QB play will be, but I believe whoever it is will perform much better. It amazes me how many LSU fans just flat give up on certain players and throw in the towel.

Posted by chilge1
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 4:42 pm to
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I don't know how well or how bad the QB play will be, but I believe whoever it is will perform much better. It amazes me how many LSU fans just flat give up on certain players and throw in the towel.


Jennings is more experienced than he was last year and Harris is more talented than Jennings was last year. I am willing to sig bet anyone on this site than our QB play will be monumentally better than it was in 2015.
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
Lafayette
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 4:44 pm to
LF rushes for 1,623 yards next season.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 4:47 pm to
That's about 7 YPC at 20 carries per game. Not impossible, but I think he'll have around 1300 to 1400, plus about 200 receiving yards.
Posted by OneFifty
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 4:54 pm to
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I think he can get 6 YPC easily this year. 12 games thats 25 carries a game. If we hit 13 games he'd need 23 carries a game.

I was thinking more along the lines of 22 carries/gm @ 6.3 yards/carry for 13 games to get 1800. While entirely possible, highly improbable. Predictions such as these are much more difficult to make given the increased backfield depth and the inexplicable use or lack thereof in his freshman season. With that said, if he was THE workhorse on another power-run offensive team, 2000 yards easily.
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 5:00 pm to
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i say he gets at least 1800 maybe even 2000

Take the blinders off.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 5:03 pm to
Ummm no.

We have a plethora of backs. Just not sure if he will get enough rushing attempts to gain that much yardage.
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 5:31 pm to
Hard to say. If his historical performance of last year is an indicator he may have a shot. I don't think anyone doubt that he got better toward the end of the year and I likewise think it is universally agreed that he is the type of back that gets better the more carries he gets. This being said, let's look at his performance last year when he was given the ball 15 or more times in a game: - 18/122 NMSU
- 27/140 UF
- 23/113 OM
- 21/79 UA
- 19/146 TAMU

and since it was the last game of the year and he had the benefit of the year under his belt, I will throw in the ND game stats

- 11/143 ND

So looking at the games in which he was given the ball 15 + times and considering his learning curve toward the end of the year, he averaged almost 124 yards per game.

Will he improve in his Soph year? I think most would expect it....to reach 1800 rushing yards he would need to average a little less than 140 taking a bowl game into account. He never had the break away crazy 200+ yard game.....but I expect a couple fo those this year....I also expect him to be shut down in a game or two.

All in all, I think 1500 is reasonable....1800 not impossible
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 5:57 pm to
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say he gets at least 1800 maybe even 2000





No. Our rb Corp is too stacked for 1 rb to get 1800 yards.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 5:59 pm to
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don't see why it's not feasible if he stays healthy and realizes returning kicks is not in his best interest.


You know Miles likes to give the backups more carries during our cupcake games. LF is talented enough to get 1800 yards but he won't get the carries to get 1800.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29321 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 6:00 pm to
1650 on 230 carries 20 rush TDs
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 6:02 pm to
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. I think he has a bigger year than Jeremy Hill in 2013. 


Jeremy Hill's 2013 season is the 2nd greatest single season for a rb at lsu. His 6.9 ypc was a sec ypc record until Chubb broke it last season.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 6:05 pm to
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Jeremy Hill was just as good if not better than LF and Miles did not use him like that........





As far as pure talent,Hill isnt close to LF.
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 6:09 pm to
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Does LF rush for 1800 yards this season?

Not if Jennings is under center and steals carries for LF like he did last year.
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
Auburn
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 6:15 pm to
Nope. Especially not if Guice is as fast as those 40 times say he is.

He should break 1000 easily. Even if he sees a handful of carriers go to other backs each game. Might make the 1500 mark if we feature him and the passing game is competent.
Posted by bbqguy
uppa LA
Member since Jul 2006
499 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 6:17 pm to
He will not get the touches to rack up that many yards.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29321 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 6:28 pm to
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would say he hits 1200 yards if he remains healthy. Jeremy Hill had 1400 (6.9 per carry (!)) in 2013 with a remarkably balanced attack. I don't think LSU has that type of balance this year.


Waaaay too low.

1) He'll get more carries than Hill (230-240)

2) He averaged 5.53 ypc with QBs that averaged 163 yards passing and 50% completion

3) Hill in his first year averaged 5.30 over a stretch where the QB averaged 205 yards per game and 56.7 completion.

Given that Harris will likely run the read option a lot (and he runs it pretty damn good), and the passing game will improve, I expect Fournette to explode.

People like to think because Mett threw well that that was the reason for Hill breaking more longer runs. Well not quite considering that nearly half of his carries were ran with 7 or more in the box. The fact that so many people were in the box aided him because when he got through that first wave (because of his terrific vision, agility, and balance), usually he was gone. Watch some of his "All plays" videos on YouTube and you'll see what I'm talking about.

We could also see the Cardele Jones effect. Jones has a SAM/GTAM launcher attached to his shoulder and that backed a lot of people off the line giving Elliot more running room. Combine Harris' speed in the option game with the ICBMs he'll be throwing, and we could see SEC rushing history.
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