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Posted on 11/16/09 at 7:39 pm to Skillet
Yes, if he wants to keep his job and continue to bring in top 5 recruiting classes!
Posted on 11/16/09 at 8:27 pm to froosh
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Crowton's spread looks great for awhile and then defenses catch on. As i'm sure both OregonDuckFan and LLD73 can atest to.... Crowton's playcalling becomes so transparent that everyone knows what he's going to run before the team even breaks the huddle. Trust me LSU fans will be calling for his head within the next couple seasons.... it happened at BYU.... their fans tried to tell us Duck fans we didn't listen and it happened to us.... I'm saying without a doubt this is the dumbest move LSU has EVER made.
Posted on 11/16/09 at 8:41 pm to TigerSage55
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TigerSage55
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I hear that it's more than a 70% chance of offensive staff changes including GC. I also heard there was a heated argument after the UF game between Coach and GC, and that a parting of the ways after the season is almost a forgone conclusion
Hey TigerSage, I'm not trying to call you out or anything, I'm just wondering where you are hearing this stuff from. Reliable?
Posted on 11/16/09 at 8:51 pm to south bama tiger
Hell yessssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If last Saturday is his idea of play calling--the man has got to go after the end of the season!!
If last Saturday is his idea of play calling--the man has got to go after the end of the season!!
Posted on 11/16/09 at 9:15 pm to TigerBandAlumnus82
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Welcome to Saturday Night Live with Crowtons Split Personality PowerIFlexBoneProSetWildTigerSpreadOption
i would add schizoid to that because when crowton is faced with a pretty clear indication of what should be done in the game he must hear a voice telling him to do the exact opposite-- and he listens!
Posted on 11/16/09 at 10:11 pm to atchafalaya
Did not Les take care of things last year on defense like he needed to do.. He is smart enough to know if there is a problem with the "O".. and fix it in due time. you know how he works... keep calm

Posted on 11/16/09 at 10:23 pm to Skillet
I wish Miles and Crowton were replaced. We will be a one sided team for years. Count it.
Posted on 11/16/09 at 10:42 pm to Bad Cat
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Considering Crowton's offense has gotten us to a #8 BCS ranking with a freshman QB at the helm, Les has to be thinking about replacing such incompetence.
#1 your a dumbass
#2 he's a sophmore
#3 your a dumbass
Posted on 11/16/09 at 11:09 pm to TigerFan55555
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We don't pay his salary - I don't care what convoluted logic you use to show that we are a state school etc... it doesn't hold water
Louisiana STATE University???
yes, we do...
Sorry - let me rephrase that - We the students/taxpayers/rantards don't pay his salary directly. In fact a big portion of it is from Boosters/alumni etc.. - basically outside the school.
Therefore we have no direct control over him and the ones who do have it are in no hurry because they are not short-term minded imbeciles.
Posted on 11/17/09 at 12:07 am to TigerBandAlumnus82
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Just exactly what IS the Crowton system? Who the frick knows. Does anybody know what he's really trying to do?
If you haven't guessed yet,Crowton is trying to figure out how to run an offense with inexperienced QBs that have trouble reading SEC defenses.
How would you like it if your job performance was governed by kids who are just one or two years out of high school and virtually no job experience?
Posted on 11/17/09 at 12:12 am to south bama tiger
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I hear that it's more than a 70% chance of offensive staff changes including GC. I also heard there was a heated argument after the UF game between Coach and GC, and that a parting of the ways after the season is almost a forgone conclusion
Any idea exactly what the fight was about????
Posted on 11/17/09 at 12:21 am to Bad Cat
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If you haven't guessed yet,Crowton is trying to figure out how to run an offense with inexperienced QBs that have trouble reading SEC defenses.
That is not an excuse. There are very many quarterbacks who are inexperienced but could still do well when they were young. Remember Stafford? Tebow won the Heisman as a sophomore and first year starter? Bradford his redshirt freshman year? Vick as a redshirt freshman?
Posted on 11/17/09 at 12:45 am to OFWHAP
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There are very many quarterbacks who are inexperienced but could still do well when they were young. Remember Stafford? Tebow won the Heisman as a sophomore and first year starter? Bradford his redshirt freshman year? Vick as a redshirt freshman?
So you think JJ is comparable in talent to a couple of future first round NFL QBs, and the only sophomore to every win the Heisman.
You are so full of B.S.
Besides, Stafford struggled as a freshman with just over 50% completion percentage and a 2:1 interceptions to TDs. ratio.
Tebow was a 5-star QB chosen specifically for Urban Meyers spread offense. Equating JJ to Tebow is total B.S.
Vick is a RB who took direct hikes in college and the NFL.
The Spin stops here.
This post was edited on 11/17/09 at 12:47 am
Posted on 11/17/09 at 12:51 am to froosh
That link echoes the analysis that was linked to and talked about in this thread: LINK
Lots of statisical info about Gary Crowton's coaching career in there. I posted a bunch of stats starting on page 12 onward.
CG's offense is one of the most experienced, smart QB-intensive one I've ever seen. What happens when you don't have already-developed Jr and Sr QB's for him to work with? We're seeing it. According to Bad Cat, we should resign ourselves to wait every 3-4 years for Crowton to develop his QB sufficiently enough to run the grab-bag offense he seems intent on running. Most of us have seen the pattern, and aren't willing to waste 3 years to have reasons to doubt what is right in front of us.
Lots of statisical info about Gary Crowton's coaching career in there. I posted a bunch of stats starting on page 12 onward.
CG's offense is one of the most experienced, smart QB-intensive one I've ever seen. What happens when you don't have already-developed Jr and Sr QB's for him to work with? We're seeing it. According to Bad Cat, we should resign ourselves to wait every 3-4 years for Crowton to develop his QB sufficiently enough to run the grab-bag offense he seems intent on running. Most of us have seen the pattern, and aren't willing to waste 3 years to have reasons to doubt what is right in front of us.
This post was edited on 11/17/09 at 12:53 am
Posted on 11/17/09 at 1:03 am to The Tiger King
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Most of us have seen the pattern, and aren't willing to waste 3 years to have reasons to doubt what is right in front of us.
Guess what, your opinion doesn't count.
Waiting four years between BCS championships is a hardship you are going to have to live with.
Posted on 11/17/09 at 1:51 am to Bad Cat
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Guess what, your opinion doesn't count.
You're right. That's why I stick to the facts. The facts are that CG has been a honeymoon OC and HC. As to an opinion about CG's future that does count, that belongs to Les Miles. How he makes up his mind will decide his future as LSU's HC. Another abysmal offensive season as this one next year, and he will sink with CG if he holds onto him. For me, CG is on the hot seat next year. Break the pattern or GTFO.
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Waiting four years between BCS championships is a hardship you are going to have to live with.
Non sequitur. I said nothing about winning BCS championships. To assume that LSU will win anything in 2011 is premature. The same criticism about the offense has continued all season. That's the context here. I'm talking about 3 years of ugly, frustrating, mediocre, and at times, plainly stupid, declining offensive production. This even overlooks what has become an as of yet unshakable misuse of playcalling, personnel, and game management.
As a fan, all I demand from the coaches is a team adept at execution, situational awareness, and hustle. Teams like that win way more than they will lose. There are always many games in a coach's W-L record are products of the vagaries and accidents in games and life beyond his control. You have me confused with a purely outcome-based ranter.
Posted on 11/17/09 at 3:06 am to Doc Fenton
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this team is losing the battle on first down
This team is losing the battle on getting a play called and getting lined up correctly without looking like retards.
Agreed! The grab arse flute players don't understand the human equation involved here!
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