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re: Does anyone who saw Nuss play last night

Posted on 12/5/22 at 8:56 am to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 8:56 am to
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One problem though. Average SEC defenses know how to stop JD now.

One problem, a crippled Daniels cut up Georgia’s pass D for over 200 yards in the first half, and Ga.’s D wasn’t average.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 8:56 am to
Well, aside from the fact that the two things have nothing to do with each other, you make a great point...

Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 8:59 am to
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Also I tend to trust the judgement of the coaches that watch these guys everyday over fans, especially since it is so unusual for fans to clamor for the back up QB


Why the "clamor" for the backup QB as you say. Are all of these fans simply ignorant or retarded? Are coaches inherently infallible? The QB is the most important position by far. Having someone who understands the position actually playing it is important. No? JD5 has a very limited understanding of things. LSU needs much better QB play.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:03 am to
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Well, aside from the fact that the two things have nothing to do with each other, you make a great point...


Brandon Harris was a one half wonder. Sunday after that Miss State game we all believed that we finally had our guy.

Will Nuss duplicate what he did Saturday and build on that performance? He should be able to do that, but we don’t know if he will. We don’t know if he will be at LSU next year.

I hope he stays. I hope he leads us to championships. But before we start buying the rings he needs to show that he’s not a Brandon Harris.

Posted by TigeronTop
Singer, La
Member since Sep 2013
129 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:06 am to
Daniel's is an average passer with elite running ability. Daniel's was the right choice to start the year with the oline issues and really did nothing to lose the job. Nuss would be be a much better option to get the ball downfield, but he makes some poor reads. Not sure if it's over confidence or lack of playing time. The oline play has improved. We need someone to get the ball to the wr in space. Whoever that is.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:16 am to
What I really think is that Nuss will never get the chance in an LSU uniform.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:25 am to
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Why the "clamor" for the backup QB as you say. Are all of these fans simply ignorant or retarded?


Usually yes, or to be more polite fans impatient and unaware of all the facts. It’s also human nature to assume if one thing doesn’t work that something else would, when in reality that’s not necessarily the case.

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Are coaches inherently infallible?


Of course not but they are professionals that work with the players daily. They also have everything at stake where as fans are just emotional observers.

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The QB is the most important position by far. Having someone who understands the position actually playing it is important. No? JD5 has a very limited understanding of things.


So here you are proving the point about fans being retarded To say Daniels has a “limited understanding of things”. What are you basing this on? Your extensive experience with him? With coaching QBs? You’re nothing but a fan pissed off when his team loses. Daniels played poorly against A&M and Arkansas while Nussmirer played well for a half in a blow out loss where we threw a lot (never mind Daniels was also throwing reasonably well in the first half.

I don’t think Nussmirer beats Bama and it’s hard to argue with how Daniels played vs Florida and OM. Burrow is not coming back.

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LSU needs much better QB play.


That is a separate argument. Daniels is certainly not elite and definitely has flaws, that doesn’t mean the back up who could not beat him out in camp is the answer. To get back to championship contention we need better play at a lot of positions
Posted by Zippydog
metairie , La
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:28 am to
Nuss was asked to step in and try and win the game . The one INT was in the endzone . Same as a punt . Yes , there was a fumble . With JD playing the entire game , the score would have been 50 to 10 . 296 yds passing in a half , several TDs and no playing time … I think Nuss has a higher upside than JD . More raw material to develop . Yes , Nuss is raw . Wide receivers said Nuss was able to push the ball down the field and give them a chance to win .
Posted by Zippydog
metairie , La
Member since Jan 2020
1102 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:36 am to
Totally agree with you .
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:50 am to
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That is a separate argument.
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So, what makes everyone here think Daniels won't improve in the areas he is lacking? Daniels had a better season than Burrow did in 2018. Burrow made a nice leap in 2019. Daniels also obviously improved just from last year at ASU.


Not completely separate as Nuss, last I checked, is on the roster but got next to 0 playing time while all of us watched 5 bounce on his toes then bail a clean pocket often getting sacked 43 times in fact. Maybe the coach should get the backup some meaningful snaps knowing his starter is limiting the offense tremendously. Maybe BK already knows that 5 will be next year's starter and Nuss is gone.

We shall see.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:13 am to
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What I really think is that Nuss will never get the chance in an LSU uniform.


It’s his call.
Posted by West Bank Dan
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:37 am to
I know we have an OC and a passing game coordinator (QB coach) but could CBK also bring in Brees / Favre / Marino for a week and coach Nuss on accuracy and Daniels on anticipation / reading defenses? I recall Marino was criticized for over-trusting his arm which made him throw into tight windows and give up picks. Favre was a gunslinger that eventually adapted to the NFL. Brees can teach quick release and accuracy. I know this is all “obvious” and maybe you can’t teach accuracy but hell, why not try?
Posted by Zippydog
metairie , La
Member since Jan 2020
1102 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:41 am to
good comment .
Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
2874 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:16 pm to
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THAT is hindsight YOU don’t have the benefit of.
All I can say is that you never know until you try.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15377 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:38 pm to
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To say Daniels has a “limited understanding of things”. What are you basing this on?
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So, what makes everyone here think Daniels won't improve in the areas he is lacking? Daniels had a better season than Burrow did in 2018. Burrow made a nice leap in 2019. Daniels also obviously improved just from last year at ASU.


It is based on watching him play. He is indecisive and inaccurate especially with the long ball. The contrast in QB play was stark when Nuss entered the game. Daniels's stats were misleading. How is it good if the QB is the leading rusher? Plenty of opinions here, but we saw Nuss do things in 1/2 of a game that JD has not done all year long.

BTW, this is a message board that by its nature solicits opinions.

Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:02 pm to
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