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re: Does anyone really believe CPM will get fired?
Posted on 5/8/19 at 1:16 pm to thunderbird1100
Posted on 5/8/19 at 1:16 pm to thunderbird1100
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So basically, if we terminated him after NEXT season, he would be owed $1.125M x 4 years = $4.5M. Terminated after THIS season would be $5.625M in buyout.
Thanks, Alleva!!! You truly sucked at contracts and hires.
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 1:26 pm to thunderbird1100
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Not this, maybe not even next year.
Here's why:
His contract is fully guaranteed on our end, through 2024
So basically, if we terminated him after NEXT season, he would be owed $1.125M x 4 years = $4.5M. Terminated after THIS season would be $5.625M in buyout.
We would have to get him to retire
That is a valid point that I haven't seen anyone bring up before now. I'm not sure I've ever seen an athletic department agree to pay that big of a buyout for a baseball coach (or really any traditionally non-revenue sport), granted there are probably only a handful of coaches in all of college baseball period that have any sort of significant buyout and we are one of a few that actually profit on baseball, albeit I believe our "profit" last year was less than $1MM.
This post was edited on 5/8/19 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 5/8/19 at 1:30 pm to Glock17
Believe, no. Hope, yes
Posted on 5/8/19 at 1:35 pm to lsufball19
What is a normal amount of profit for the baseball team? If next year he has the same kind of performance do you think we would just sit on him another year to lower the buyout? I would think 4.5M is still a large buyout for baseball.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 1:38 pm to lsufball19
I am willing to bet that most of not all college baseball coaches contracts are fully guaranteed. Teams don’t get rid of coaches like they do in football and basketball. It’s not uncommon to see a coach with very minimal success coach at a school for 10+ years.
LSU is the only place in the country that would even think about getting rid of a coach as successful as Mainieri. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing but that’s what LSU is. The most pressure filled job in the country. The fans demand not just wins but wins in a specific place called Omaha and every year. Shoot the guy some fans want to fire isn’t even 2 calendar years removed from winning games in Omaha.
LSU is the only place in the country that would even think about getting rid of a coach as successful as Mainieri. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing but that’s what LSU is. The most pressure filled job in the country. The fans demand not just wins but wins in a specific place called Omaha and every year. Shoot the guy some fans want to fire isn’t even 2 calendar years removed from winning games in Omaha.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 1:39 pm to Glock17
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I do think Mainieri should seriously look at shuffling up is assistants to hire a legit hitting coach, but I have no idea who he'd even consider letting go to make that happen.
TAF could pay CPM his entire salary, similar to the way Georgia's head coach is paid, then LSU could hire, and pay a hitting coach, and still be at the limit of 3 coaches a school can pay for baseball.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 1:47 pm to Texastiger43
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What is a normal amount of profit for the baseball team?
I think we usually profit around $500k/year iirc. The vaast majority of programs lose several million a year. If you add a Mainieri buyout of over a million/year, we will also be in the red more than likely.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 1:48 pm to geauxtigers33
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I am willing to bet that most of not all college baseball coaches contracts are fully guaranteed.
That may be true but most (not all) college baseball coaches also make half of what Paul does, so even if their contracts are fully guaranteed (I have no idea if they are), we're still not talking about a huge sum of money.
This post was edited on 5/8/19 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 5/8/19 at 1:59 pm to vjp819
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TAF could pay CPM his entire salary, similar to the way Georgia's head coach is paid, then LSU could hire, and pay a hitting coach, and still be at the limit of 3 coaches a school can pay for baseball.
Would that affect who could be on the road recruiting? If TAF paid his salary, would he be a university employee and allowed to recruit?
Posted on 5/8/19 at 2:01 pm to vjp819
quote:Then we'd have a head coach who couldn't talk to recruits. Probably not a good idea.....
TAF could pay CPM his entire salary, similar to the way Georgia's head coach is paid, then LSU could hire, and pay a hitting coach, and still be at the limit of 3 coaches a school can pay for baseball.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 2:06 pm to vjp819
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TAF could pay CPM his entire salary, similar to the way Georgia's head coach is paid, then LSU could hire, and pay a hitting coach, and still be at the limit of 3 coaches a school can pay for baseball.
What makes you think Georgia’s head coach doesn’t count towards their 3 coaches? For the record the school only pays for about 300k of CPM’s contract.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 2:26 pm to Glock17
The Titanic has hit the Ice Berg. The only questions now are how long to completely sink and the number of casualties!
Posted on 5/8/19 at 2:42 pm to Glock17
No. There are still games to play. I think Woodward talks with him after the season. He gets next year for sure if he wants it to get things on track.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 2:44 pm to Glock17
No. And he doesn’t deserve to be fired.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:14 pm to Glock17
Nah
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:18 pm to Glock17
Yes. If they don't they are selling out the baseball program for 5 million dollars. CPM needs to go and go this year.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:28 pm to Glock17
we can only pray new AD does his job
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:29 pm to Glock17
Of course not, this season is an anomaly. That doesn’t mean it isn’t the start of a downhill slide though. It’s up to Paul to right the ship and I’m sure he will do his best
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:52 pm to lovemytigers1
If he does his job, he will sit down with Mainieri, go through the program success and needs for improvement, and then ask Paul what he needs to improve the program. If he is able for get that for PM, he either succeeds or fails and then you can let him go. A good AD will listen and work with coaches to help them help him make athletics successful.
There is a reason Mainieri and Miles flirted with other jobs while at lsu. They had an AD who didnt communicate with them very often. I think that problem is over.
There is a reason Mainieri and Miles flirted with other jobs while at lsu. They had an AD who didnt communicate with them very often. I think that problem is over.
This post was edited on 5/8/19 at 5:54 pm
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