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re: Does anybody here still think LSU was better than Bama last year?
Posted on 1/25/12 at 6:09 pm to lsufightingtigers1
Posted on 1/25/12 at 6:09 pm to lsufightingtigers1
quote:
We had the more difficult season and the better record.
That may be true, but do any of you really believe that Bama wouldn't have beaten Oregon and WVU?
These were two very good teams. As a Bama fan, I think my team was slightly better overall. But, as shown by Nov. 5, if they played 10 times, LSU would win a few of them.
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Posted on 1/25/12 at 6:20 pm to lsufightingtigers1
Bama moved the ball in both games and was able to sustain drives consistently. Lsu forced maybe 5 punts in both games combined. Lsu Did not put togethet a drive that was impressive in either game.
Lsu scored 3 pts off a pick and 3 pts off a busted play to russell shepard. They only created two opportunities for pts lol Bama put together 15 drives to create pts
Lsu scored 3 pts off a pick and 3 pts off a busted play to russell shepard. They only created two opportunities for pts lol Bama put together 15 drives to create pts
Posted on 1/25/12 at 7:10 pm to BhamDore
We had a great season, no doubt about it. But when the chips were down Bama had the best team at the end of the season. Reasons a plenty. The truth hurts but that's reality folks. I'm as big a tiger fan as any of you posting here but face it. We lost to a better prepared and coached team that was ready to play. We were not ready or prepared for whatever reasons. I look at it this way. We've come a long way and we expect LSU to win. That's a far cry from the Hallman, DiNardo eras. Bama has a rich tradition of winning big games. We are getting there, and this loss will serve as fuel to burn through the 2012 season. Let's look ahead and not forget what happened on Jan. 9 but use it to never forget what can happen to a great undefeated team if they are not ready to play. Geaux Tigers and here's to a great season next year. 
Posted on 1/25/12 at 7:14 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
Bama's OL did NOT dominate the LSU DL. Watch the game again. Bama had trouble running the ball. They had to move McCarron in the pocket & use timing routes. McCarron actually had less time to pass this game than the Nov 5 game.
LSU lacks good qb play along with a decent game plan.
LSU lacks good qb play along with a decent game plan.
Posted on 1/25/12 at 7:25 pm to Hankster2
I see your points. LSU would have been better to lose the Nov 5 game & get the rematch. LSU stole the game in Tuscaloosa which added even more to the revenge factor. However, LSU did beat Bama in the rushing game on Nov 5 & stopped Bama in the 2nd half.
Although the BCSCG seemed to a beat down, it was not a matter of Bama being that much more physical than LSU, especially Bama's offense. Bama actually had trouble running the ball most of the game like LSU did the whole game. The big difference was qb play & game plan. LSU's offense was of no help to a defense that still had LSU in the game well into 3rd qtr. And, you would think with that beat down, that you would have LSU players lying on the field in the 2nd half with injuries. It wasn't that way because LSU has the athlete's, too.
Although the BCSCG seemed to a beat down, it was not a matter of Bama being that much more physical than LSU, especially Bama's offense. Bama actually had trouble running the ball most of the game like LSU did the whole game. The big difference was qb play & game plan. LSU's offense was of no help to a defense that still had LSU in the game well into 3rd qtr. And, you would think with that beat down, that you would have LSU players lying on the field in the 2nd half with injuries. It wasn't that way because LSU has the athlete's, too.
Posted on 1/25/12 at 10:00 pm to cajun5tiger
(Not really a response to cajun5tiger but to the whole thread.)
Both teams had two weeks to prepare for the 11/5 game. It was played with only the remotest chance of there being a rematch (unprecedented in the BCS era). I really don't think Bama was thinking "it's ok if we blow this one since we'll get a rematch." And we won.
Had the first game been played knowing there would be a rematch then it introduces a different dynamic. Moreover, had it been known at the time that the follow-up game was to be at TS on Sat night, then you would have had a rematch in the truest sense.
Or had there been a third game in TS on Sat night maybe we could really find out.
For now, the available data is skewed.
Both teams had two weeks to prepare for the 11/5 game. It was played with only the remotest chance of there being a rematch (unprecedented in the BCS era). I really don't think Bama was thinking "it's ok if we blow this one since we'll get a rematch." And we won.
Had the first game been played knowing there would be a rematch then it introduces a different dynamic. Moreover, had it been known at the time that the follow-up game was to be at TS on Sat night, then you would have had a rematch in the truest sense.
Or had there been a third game in TS on Sat night maybe we could really find out.
For now, the available data is skewed.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 8:12 am to cajun5tiger
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LSU would have been better to lose the Nov 5 game & get the rematch.
Only one problem:
LSU would NOT have gotten the rematch.
LSU is not a media darling. We play by a different set of rules than teams like Bama, USC, ND, etc.
Learn to live with it.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 8:14 am to AlwysATgr
quote:
Not really a response to cajun5tiger but to the whole thread.)
Both teams had two weeks to prepare for the 11/5 game. It was played with only the remotest chance of there being a rematch (unprecedented in the BCS era). I really don't think Bama was thinking "it's ok if we blow this one since we'll get a rematch." And we won.
Had the first game been played knowing there would be a rematch then it introduces a different dynamic. Moreover, had it been known at the time that the follow-up game was to be at TS on Sat night, then you would have had a rematch in the truest sense.
Or had there been a third game in TS on Sat night maybe we could really find out.
For now, the available data is skewed.
This.
If this was the NFL where a rematch could be expected in the Playoffs, then yes. This is a solid point.
But again, this BCSNCG would also be unprecedented in the NFL as well. For example, the Packers will never play the Bears, Vikings, or Lions in the Super Bowl.
For the Saints fans, the Saints would never play the Bucs, Panthers or Falcons in the Super Bowl...or any other NFC team for that matter.
LOL. Ahh. The life of a CFB media darling.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 9:04 am to Frankie Knuckles
13-1 > 12-1
I think Lsu got royaly fuked in this deal. Let's defy any and all CFB logic for the great univ of Alabama. The truth is Lsu should have never had to play bama again. We don't have a playoff and this isn't the NFL and the season ends with controversy yet again. 3 legit 1 loss teams with an argument. This is why this board calls it the MNC. There is never a true champion in this sport we all choose to love.
I think Lsu got royaly fuked in this deal. Let's defy any and all CFB logic for the great univ of Alabama. The truth is Lsu should have never had to play bama again. We don't have a playoff and this isn't the NFL and the season ends with controversy yet again. 3 legit 1 loss teams with an argument. This is why this board calls it the MNC. There is never a true champion in this sport we all choose to love.
This post was edited on 1/26/12 at 9:07 am
Posted on 1/26/12 at 9:05 am to Teague
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Teague
That may be true, but do any of you really believe that Bama wouldn't have beaten Oregon and WVU?
These were two very good teams. As a Bama fan, I think my team was slightly better overall.
Without begrudging you your opinion (we all are after all fans of our teams...)
We are talking about what "Might" happen but what did happen...
LSU has the better resume' PERIOD. And I do not know of a single objective college football fan that does not agree with that.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 9:48 am to jdg91878
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There is never a true champion in this sport we all choose to love.
delusional
Posted on 1/26/12 at 11:26 am to LsuTool
There is no doubt in my mind that Alabama had a better football team. If football were like baseball and we played a best of five or seven series we don't win the series. On the other hand, we obviously don't get swept.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 11:47 am to Teague
quote:
That may be true, but do any of you really believe that Bama wouldn't have beaten Oregon and WVU?
Well never know will we?
What we DO know is that LSU had a better resume and won the first game AT Bama. Bama played very well on a neutral field and LSU stunk it up. Bama got a trophy. LSU got a trophy. Bama got to end the season on a high note; LSU didn't.
This post was edited on 1/26/12 at 11:49 am
Posted on 1/26/12 at 11:52 am to cajun5tiger
quote:
LSU stole the game in Tuscaloosa which added even more to the revenge factor.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 1:00 pm to Teague
quote:
That may be true, but do any of you really believe that Bama wouldn't have beaten Oregon and WVU?
Bama was capable of beating these teams but beating them would not have been predetermined. You never know until you play the game. I certainly know that LSU could have played better in the national championship game. LSU is capable of beating Bama and had we not already done so, everyone would be arguing that we were incapable of beating Bama this season.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 5:24 pm to klrstix
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LSU has the better resume' PERIOD.
Yes, and a great season. That's why you were ranked #1 and got into the game.
Bama also had a great season, and the BCS system decided they were the #2 team in the country. That's why they got in the game.
It's pretty simple really.
Any argument to the contrary is dependent upon a set of rules that does not exist. It's as simple as "who are the two best teams in the country?"
And I think Bama was the best team in the country.
This post was edited on 1/26/12 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 1/26/12 at 5:42 pm to Teague
quote:
Yes, and a great season. That's why you were ranked #1 and got into the game.
Bama also had a great season, and the BCS system decided they were the #2 team in the country. That's why they got in the game.
It's pretty simple really.
I still don't believe a team that didn't win their division not their conference championship and has already been beaten by the other team at their place should be able to play in the NC game............and I believe 95% of the people in the USA agree......
not that Bama out played LSU badly the second time does not make them the better team.......
2 out of 3 is better than a tie......
and any team can beat any team on a given day......
LSU was the best team the 1st game...
Bama was the best team the second game....but, how many other teams got to play the team that beat them the first time .....no one... Okla State didn't...Oregon didn't...the BCS system sucks...Bama should have never been able to pay in the NC game
Posted on 1/26/12 at 5:51 pm to Teague
quote:
Bama also had a great season, and the BCS system decided they were the #2 team in the country. That's why they got in the game.
It's pretty simple really.
Sounds simple. But if Bama ever faces a similar scenerio you won't think it's so simple. Or fair.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 6:00 pm to Frankie Knuckles
21-0 says it all. Sorry...I'm a huge LSU fan, but that's too much of a butt-kicking to claim that LSU was better.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 8:30 pm to cphill
There were two games played by LSU/UA and in the two games there were actually 9 quarters played. LSU scored 1 point per quarter. UA scored 3 points per quarter. How does this make LSU the better team???
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