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re: do you want dual-threat or drop back QB?
Posted on 1/12/12 at 12:16 am to tirebiter
Posted on 1/12/12 at 12:16 am to tirebiter
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Not a tuck and run before looking at the first 3 options who becomes totally ineffective against above average defenses.
That's Les's kind of QB baby.
Just watch, he'll try to force feed Randall into the offense next season, interupting the development and continuity of the passing game under Mett / Kiel / Rivers.
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Posted on 1/12/12 at 12:22 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
I never want to see lsu run that ugly read option crap again. As soon as that re-entered the playbook, it was 2010 all over again. Blah.
So i prefer to see a drop back guy, which is great since lsu has three on the roster.
So i prefer to see a drop back guy, which is great since lsu has three on the roster.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 12:53 am to tirebiter
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I want a guy with great accuracy, big enough arm to matter, and quick enough feet to help himself avoid the first guy and buy time when he needs it
accuracy is the biggest, but you nailed it....
Posted on 1/12/12 at 12:56 am to lsu xman
Drop back
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:32 am to cenla tigah
I would be happy with a QB who can just THROW the football.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 1:34 am to cenla tigah
I want a gamer back there with some savvy. I am tired of seeing these robots over the last four years play the position. Someone who makes plays and take control of the situation.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 2:02 am to IgotKINGfisherSpeed
Mett and only Mett for next season. We don't need a dual threat. We have 6 amazing running backs who can carry the rock. We need a great game manager who can move the sticks and make plays down the field. A guy that can get other players involved and be effective off of play action.
AKA the Anti-Jefferson who won't take all the carries and keep it away from our playmakers.
AKA the Anti-Jefferson who won't take all the carries and keep it away from our playmakers.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 5:15 am to lsu xman
Drop back. NO more HS level QB's please.
This season, the Tigers' offense was more in synch and a threat to score when Lee was in the game, total yardage notwithstanding. LSU was fun to watch. Power running, I formation, play action etc.
Once #9 took over, we started seeing dropped snaps, false starts, burned timeouts, 3rd and longs, poor decisions, and our #1 receiver's stats dropped off significantly in terms of per game productivity.
It was like our offense was an efficient machine that turned into a sputtering jalopy when the HS qb was inserted; and it culminated with one of the worst offensive performances by a top tier team in a big game that I and many others have ever seen. In short, a complete embarrassment and a belittling of what was a fantastic season, on a national stage, to our most bitter rival.
Please Les, move the players incapable of reading a defense and making a quick decision to WR, safety, CB, TE, FB, LB or whatever, but don't let them take any more snaps under center. Quick footed slow witted selfish QBs do not bring home the big hardware at this level.
It cost us the NC this year and if HS-#9 had started all season my guess is we had more losses and never made the big game.
We need a passer. Look what Luck was able to bring to Stanford. I'd wager none of their top WRs or TE's would even crack the 2 deep at LSU.
Good decisions from the QB position mean everything at the high level LSU plays, and in the NFL as well.
I don't care if that QB is like Mett, or what color he is -- it's all about results.
Just put in a guy that can make decisions, has confidence (based in reality not fantasy ahem), a quick release, and understands what being a leader really means.
I just described the anti-JJ.
NO MORE HS MENTALITY QBs AT THE OLE WAR SKULE!
This season, the Tigers' offense was more in synch and a threat to score when Lee was in the game, total yardage notwithstanding. LSU was fun to watch. Power running, I formation, play action etc.
Once #9 took over, we started seeing dropped snaps, false starts, burned timeouts, 3rd and longs, poor decisions, and our #1 receiver's stats dropped off significantly in terms of per game productivity.
It was like our offense was an efficient machine that turned into a sputtering jalopy when the HS qb was inserted; and it culminated with one of the worst offensive performances by a top tier team in a big game that I and many others have ever seen. In short, a complete embarrassment and a belittling of what was a fantastic season, on a national stage, to our most bitter rival.
Please Les, move the players incapable of reading a defense and making a quick decision to WR, safety, CB, TE, FB, LB or whatever, but don't let them take any more snaps under center. Quick footed slow witted selfish QBs do not bring home the big hardware at this level.
It cost us the NC this year and if HS-#9 had started all season my guess is we had more losses and never made the big game.
We need a passer. Look what Luck was able to bring to Stanford. I'd wager none of their top WRs or TE's would even crack the 2 deep at LSU.
Good decisions from the QB position mean everything at the high level LSU plays, and in the NFL as well.
I don't care if that QB is like Mett, or what color he is -- it's all about results.
Just put in a guy that can make decisions, has confidence (based in reality not fantasy ahem), a quick release, and understands what being a leader really means.
I just described the anti-JJ.
NO MORE HS MENTALITY QBs AT THE OLE WAR SKULE!
Posted on 1/12/12 at 5:42 am to WNCTiger
Dual threat versus Drop back is a false distinction.
If a player is a true dual threat then of course you want that. Who says I only want a player that does only one aspect of his position well.
Aaron Rogers is one of the most accurate quarterbacks we have seen in a while. . .but what makes him other-wordly is his ability to extend when the play breaks down. Tom Brady has been incredible for the Pats. . .but you don't think they wish he had wheels against the Giants in the Super Bowl a few years back?
This thread seems to imply that we had the choice the last few years between a true dual threat and a drop back passer. That is not correct.
Also, it is easier to find a game-manager (which is just another way of saying average) than a true dual-threat.
The beauty of the game-manager is that when their teams win they get overrated because their mistakes weren't costly (See M. Mauck national championship game or G. McElroy national championship game)
If a player is a true dual threat then of course you want that. Who says I only want a player that does only one aspect of his position well.
Aaron Rogers is one of the most accurate quarterbacks we have seen in a while. . .but what makes him other-wordly is his ability to extend when the play breaks down. Tom Brady has been incredible for the Pats. . .but you don't think they wish he had wheels against the Giants in the Super Bowl a few years back?
This thread seems to imply that we had the choice the last few years between a true dual threat and a drop back passer. That is not correct.
Also, it is easier to find a game-manager (which is just another way of saying average) than a true dual-threat.
The beauty of the game-manager is that when their teams win they get overrated because their mistakes weren't costly (See M. Mauck national championship game or G. McElroy national championship game)
Posted on 1/12/12 at 6:01 am to LSUQ
Dual-threat = someone who can't throw and read defenses.
I'll take pro style please.
I'll take pro style please.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 6:06 am to lsu xman
I would prefer a pro-style drop back offense, but run with a qb who has legs and is a threat to take off and run when that's the only option.
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 6:11 am
Posted on 1/12/12 at 6:15 am to racknreel
Don't care if he's better at running or throwing the deep ball. We just need one that has his head in the game.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 6:29 am to wil
quote:
I would be happy with a QB who can just THROW the football.
This
Posted on 1/12/12 at 6:37 am to lsu xman
Drop back. If the qb has the arm and the head to execute the passing game, and grow with it... we truly do not need a running qb.. he can sit there under center or in shotgun and pick the Def. apart.... Just like McCarron did to us! A good qb can put the ball where it cant be intercepted..... and a good passing game opens us the running game. My hope and prayer is that Mett is that guy!! We still have so many pieces in place to make anothe run...
Posted on 1/12/12 at 6:53 am to Newgene
I want a QB. Dual-threat and drop-back are terms that are too often used to describe what a prospect can't do. Dual-threat can't pass well enough to justify playing them for their passing skills. Drop-back can't scramble and extend plays.
Since passing is 50% or more of most offenses, the most important quality in a QB is the ability to read defenses and deliver the ball on time to a receiver who can make a play. If you have that type of QB, you play him. If he can also run, so much the better, but I would not sacrifice passing efficiency to play a running QB.
Since passing is 50% or more of most offenses, the most important quality in a QB is the ability to read defenses and deliver the ball on time to a receiver who can make a play. If you have that type of QB, you play him. If he can also run, so much the better, but I would not sacrifice passing efficiency to play a running QB.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 7:31 am to tirebiter
quote:Matt "Damon" Flynn you say?
I want a guy with great accuracy, big enough arm to matter, and quick enough feet to help himself avoid the first guy and buy time when he needs it. Not a tuck and run before looking at the first 3 options who becomes totally ineffective against above average defenses.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 7:55 am to lsu xman
One who is smart, talented, unselfish, coachable, and can execute either one of these systems in a consistent manner.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 7:58 am to lsu xman
had enough of the "dual-threat" for awhile, thank you
Posted on 1/12/12 at 8:02 am to tirebiter
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I want a guy with great accuracy, big enough arm to matter, and quick enough feet to help himself avoid the first guy and buy time when he needs it. Not a tuck and run before looking at the first 3 options who becomes totally ineffective against above average defenses.
So........youre saying you want Brees????
I'd take that
Posted on 1/12/12 at 8:08 am to ColeLSU
The only way we can win a NC is with a dual threat. Didn't you see how much Alabama played their dual threat QB?
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