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re: Do the umps make this call at Alex Box?

Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:13 am to
Posted by StickD
Houston
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:13 am to
Slide.

Can't bulldoze catchers anymore.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
18129 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:17 am to
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I just cant stand the people acting like this is some huge injustice


It’s absolutely an injustice. The wrong call that is opposite of the letter of the written rule changed the outcome of the game. Then the player the rule is misapplied must miss the next game. No bigger injustice can happen on a call.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:21 am to
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Slide
He did

He hit the catcher while starting the slide because the catcher is 5 feet in front of home
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
11460 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:25 am to
Watched it live….. the runner had no plan to slide and if the catcher catches the ball he would’ve ran him over anyway. Thats why the call was made in my opinion.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:27 am to
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the runner had no plan to slide




He is quite literally starting a slide. Tucking the back leg and everything and leaning back with the shoulders

If the catcher disappears it’s a completely normal on time slide.
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 11:28 am
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22852 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:28 am to
Yeah the runner imo was clearly bending his knees to start his slide when the collision occurred. Like I said earlier, you are NOT sliding to slow down at home. Last thing you want is your forward motion stopping when u get to home plate. If that would happen then the catcher catch easily block the plate and stop runner from scoring. If the catcher wants to stand that far in front of the plate then he deserves to get his legs taken out from under him by the runner sliding in through home.

ETA: Pride’s photo clearly shows the slide. Runner also slid at the appropriate time. Can’t believe the umps missed this after replay. IMO the person who is irresponsible here is the catcher.
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 11:32 am
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
11511 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:32 am to
Dude was out in front of the plate without possession.

Terrible call
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:33 am to
This is no intent to slide



This is literally starting a slide


This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 11:33 am
Posted by sharkfhin
Over Der
Member since Sep 2008
2599 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:37 am to
No baseball in the mitt, cant block plate. Runner has a right to baseline in that case. As far as malicious? Wtf was he supposed to do, go around him with ? Dude was blocking the plate with no possession of the ball in mitt. I know there is some sort of contact rule but the catcher CANNOT block the plate without possessing the ball.

Catcher obstruction. Runner should be awarded home plate. Period, end of story.
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 11:42 am
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22852 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:37 am to
Honestly even in your “no intent” pic, the catcher is so far up the baseline that he is literally past rhe batter’s box. Imo catcher is going to stand that far up the line then he deserves to get run over bc I’m not sure what else the runner could really do bc the runner is too far away to even slide.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
71819 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:39 am to
Just curious. What was the catcher supposed to do? Tried to receive the ball, ball got past him. Would he even have time to get out of the way?
Posted by sharkfhin
Over Der
Member since Sep 2008
2599 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:44 am to
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What was the catcher supposed to do?
gamble he took but he missed ball. Catcher obstruction. Runner has right to the baseline in this scenario. Catcher is in his way. If Catcher had the ball...the runner would have been called out on the tag(regardless if the contact made ball come out) then thrown out for making contact like this. He didn't have the ball. Everything changes in favor of the runner.
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 11:46 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:44 am to
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Just curious. What was the catcher supposed to do?
Not position himself up the baseline in front of the plate before a throw is ever made….

Oregon runner is still on third base while the catcher is blocking the plate




He put himself way up the baseline. The throw didn’t move him there
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 11:46 am
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25996 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:45 am to
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catcher CANNOT block the plate without possessing the ball.
quote:

Dude was blocking the plate with no possession of the ball in mitt.
quote:

No baseball in the mitt, cant block plate.


Wrong 3 times

Catcher doesn’t have to have possession. He has to be setting up to receive the ball, which he was.
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 11:47 am
Posted by slinger1
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2017
140 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:46 am to
Have to slide!!!!
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:46 am to
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Have to slide!!!!
He did
Posted by sharkfhin
Over Der
Member since Sep 2008
2599 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:47 am to
I'm not wrong. Look up the rule. He never POSESSED the ball. Can't block the plate without possession of the ball. End of story. You just embarrassed yourself.
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 11:49 am
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30010 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:47 am to
Phhheeewww…..don’t know on that one…..surely don’t know about it in this spot. I’m not sure I could have made that call, but I can see why it was made.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:48 am to
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Catcher doesn’t have to have possession. He has to be setting up to receive the ball, which he was.
How can you be setting up the receive the ball while the fielder hasn’t even caught it yet

Also

0nce the ball is past the catcher he is no long on the act of receiving the ball.

So twice he was within obstruction
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30010 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 11:50 am to
That’s the part I have the biggest problem with…..the replay folks said there was no obstruction…..that means my understanding of obstruction must be wrong according to them because by God it looked like he obstructed the runner’s path to the base to me…..but hell I’m just a fan who has watched a lot of baseball over the years
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