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re: Do the umps make this call at Alex Box?

Posted on 5/31/25 at 3:57 pm to
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 3:57 pm to
Bad call. Clearly obstruction. The runner does attempt to slide feet first, but the catcher is clearly in the way.

The catcher doesn’t get to block the base before he has the ball per the rule. He clearly sets up to receive the ball by blocking the base before the ball is anywhere close to him.
Posted by Tigerdew
The Garden District of Da' Parish
Member since Dec 2003
14180 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 3:58 pm to
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That’s the runner extending his arms after making illegal contact with the catcher. All avoidable if he slides.


All would be true if he possessed the ball or was about to catch the ball. Once he missed a perfect throw, he’s obstructing. The runner had no obligation to do shite but it is still up for interpretation. Terrible call to eject the kid. Does he have to sit out their game 2?



Here’s what the NCAA Obstructing rule states. I don’t see how you could argue he was in the process of fielding the ball because he failed at that process.

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Note 6: The catcher, without the ball in his possession, has no right to block the pathway of the runner attempting to score. The base line belongs to the runner and the catcher should be there only when he is fielding the ball or when he already has the ball in his hand. If a fielder is about to receive a thrown ball and if the ball is in flight toward and near enough to the fielder so he must occupy his position to receive the ball, he may be considered “in the act of fielding” a ball. It is entirely up to the judgment of the umpire as to whether the fielder is in the act of fielding a ball.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 3:59 pm to
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Both are falling to their arse with their knee up as they approach the batters box. That’s exactly when and how you slide into hone


These two pics are not the same at all. The first one... the guy is sliding towards the outside of the batters box w/the intent of dragging his left hand across the bag. The second one... the guy is "sliding" and still damn near vertical and dead center of the baseline/home plate.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
90020 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:00 pm to
Pride appreciated your useless post about a 2013 play from Chase Utley. The plate was one year before MLB initiated the collision at home plate rules after the Buster Posey incident, so it’s irrelevant.

Also, using Utley, a guy who was notoriously malicious with slides, is ironic.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32481 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:02 pm to
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Whenever you hit a 200lb human being while sliding your momentum will stop at your legs hitting them and you will come up. Kinda what happens when someone is in front of the plate and you slide into them

The runner made a half arse slide attempt and appeared to be more interested in making contact due to his late decision making.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
31206 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:04 pm to
Hell, yes

Thats an old fashion, back in my heyday, collision. With the intent of a forced dislodging of the ball.

1) The throw was there way before the runner.
2) The knew he was dead, once he saw where the catcher sat up
3) The catcher simply botched the tag

That linebacker-sized runner, had every intention of collision for effect
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:04 pm to
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made a half arse slide attempt and appeared to be more interested in making contact due to his late decision making.
Right there is proof you also don’t beleive it’s a malicious intent to injure

That’s the entirety of this. 100% malicious intent to injure looks like this





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Thats an old fashion, back in my heyday, collision. With the intent of a forced dislodging of the ball.
Now we know you are full of shite. Look above and compare that to what the Oregon player did
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 4:06 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
90020 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:05 pm to
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Here’s what the NCAA Obstructing rule states


Obstruction doesn’t supersede the collision rule. I’ve posted it at least once in the last couple pages.

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Unless the catcher is in possession of the ball, the catcher cannot block the pathway of the runner as they are attempting to score. If, in the judgment of the umpire, the catcher without possession of the ball blocks the pathway of the runner, the umpire shall call or signal the runner safe. Notwithstanding the above, it shall not be considered a violation if the catcher blocks the pathway of the runner in a legitimate attempt to field a throw that arrives at the position of the catcher at the same time as the runner, (e.g., in reaction to the direction, trajectory or the hop of the incoming throw, or in reaction to a throw that originates from the pitcher or drawn-in infielder). In addition, a catcher without possession of the ball shall not be adjudged to be in violation if the runner could have avoided the collision with the catcher (or other player covering home plate) by sliding.


Runner performs a legal slide before the collision and he’s safe with obstruction.

Instead he goes in high and invalidates the obstruction by making illegal contact with the catcher. Pretty simple.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
90020 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:07 pm to
If y’all want to argue the malicious intent, be my guest, but the runner is out with or without the malicious intent due to the illegal slide.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:08 pm to
Be our guest? The ruling was malicious intent. Period. That’s quite literally the only discussion to be had

We aren’t just choosing to talk about malicious intent
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 4:09 pm
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32481 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:08 pm to
Yes I don’t believe there was malicious intent but I’m not a mind reader.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:09 pm to
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es I don’t believe there was malicious intent but I’m not a mind reader.
Which is why you would make a good replay official over the fat dipshit from last night. You aren’t going to overrule something on the field while guessing
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
90020 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:11 pm to
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Be our guest? The ruling was malicious intent. Period. That’s quite literally the only discussion to be had


Malicious intent just determines whether or not the runner is ejected.

By rule he’s out with or without the intent.
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 4:12 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:11 pm to
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By rule he’s out with or with the intent.
I am telling you why they called him out last night on replay
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:13 pm to
Verbatim “on review the contact was malicious resulting in an out and ejection”

Quite literally the only thing you should be discussing. So, did they get it right?
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 4:14 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
90020 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:22 pm to
I don’t know if a clear violation of the collision rule is always considered malicious or flagrant. They very clearly state that the runner is out based on the facts in this case, and they stipulate that malicious actions result in an ejection too. The way the rulebook is cited and written it is plausible that all violations of the collision rule are considered flagrant, but it doesn’t specifically state it that way.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:23 pm to
Here is the other thing:

The collision had no impact on any of the play. Nothing. Zero

So, instead of letting the play stand as called, some people are arguing it was correct to overturn the rule on the field with a completely judgmental call and take runs off the board even though it did not impact the play at all


It’s literal proof people will argue anything.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
90020 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:25 pm to
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It’s literal proof people will argue anything.
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lsupride87


The irony.
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
29283 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:41 pm to
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The collision had no impact on any of the play. Nothing. Zero



There are fouls called in every single sport that don’t impact the play.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
29567 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 4:43 pm to
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He clearly sets up to receive the ball by blocking the base before the ball is anywhere close to him.
The runner wasn’t anywhere close to him at that point either therefore he wasn’t obstructing the runner. The ball beat the runner to the plate so the catcher was in the act of fielding the throw by the time the runner arrived.
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