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re: Do the umps make this call at Alex Box?

Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by Purplehaze
spring, tx
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:22 pm to
I would gladly pay to watch some of these keyboard warriors put on the umpire equipment and call a game.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:23 pm to
The umps did a fantastic job here. They didn’t call anything…

Ironically it was a fat keyboard warrior watching a tv that made the call
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25996 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:29 pm to
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So if a catcher goes 15 feet up the line to field a ball the runner has to start his slide there? Of course not. The rule is the fielder starts his slide at the appropriate time according to the base. It’s not assuming when the catcher is way up the line And the rule you quoted is for when the catcher has the ball. Does the catcher have the ball?


The position of the catcher relative to obstruction does not matter until the runner is nearing home plate.

Found this document from the NCAA that fully explains the rule about obstructing. https://unitedumpires.org/pdf/Feb2018-Interpretation.pdf


quote:

To rule on a play at the plate, the umpire needs to take a "mental snapshot" to record the relative positions of the runner, the catcher (fielder), and the throw.

1. Is the runner attempting to score (inside the dirt circle around the plate or within the last few steps in his approach to the plate)?

a. If the answer is "no’', the catcher can be standing anywhere he chooses.
However, a good practice would be for the catcher to always take an initial position not in the baseline until he needs to be there to make a play.
b. If the answer is "yes",', look at the position of the catcher and the throw.

2. Is the catcher in the pathway of the runner?
a. If the answer is "yes" and a runner is attempting to score, he needs to have possession of the ball or be in the act of fielding the throw.
b. If the catcher is doing neither of these and he impedes the progress of the runner, it is obstruction.

3. What is the position of the throw to the plate?
a. If the ball is in flight directly toward and near enough to the fielder (within 60 feet) that the catcher can make a legitimate effort to field the throw, he is in the act of fielding and can be blocking the runner's pathway.
b. If the position of the ball is not within these limits and the catcher impedes the runner's progress, it is obstruction.

This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 2:31 pm
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
18129 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:31 pm to
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It was malicious and the catcher was in the process of fielding the throw.




Yep. Sp malicious he was holding up and pulling his shoulders back. You know why? Because by rule the catcher was obstructing. The field guys got it right, the replay guys should be banned from sports for life.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:31 pm to
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However, a good practice would be for the catcher to always take an initial position not in the baseline until he needs to be there to make a play.
Wow

We can shut this down then. Good effort mick
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:33 pm to
The LSU students would have thrown a ton of trash on the field and it would have been justified. The catcher was blocking the plate and the runner pulled up to avoid a faster collision.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25996 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:33 pm to
“A good practice.” Read the rest
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:33 pm to
And check fricking make even more reading the rest

quote:

If the ball is in flight directly toward and near enough to the fielder (within 60 feet)


The ball was no longer in flight directly toward the catcher. It had already been missed by the catcher and past him

You buried yourself with your own post
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 2:34 pm
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
18129 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:35 pm to
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Boy that was easy. Player carted off field after collision at first base. LINK LINK Feel dumb yet, or shall I keep going? Now explain what the green base hurts? 1/100,000th of a percent of what? Of plays at first base? 1/100,000th of a percent of collisions result in serious injury? Like what is your argument here? I don’t think you know, or understand math.


You’re a dumbass. The sissy bag would have nothing to do with the defensive player crossing past the base. And yes, baseball is so soft it is making safety rules that may come into play once or twice a year with 100’s of thousands of plays at first base.

But like your china virus shot, if it just saves one…
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25996 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:38 pm to
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The ball was no longer in flight directly toward the catcher. It had already been missed by the catcher and past him


The attempt to field the ball was already made. It was a legal attempt by rule.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:40 pm to
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The attempt to field the ball was already made. It was a legal attempt by rule.
You can’t be a real person
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:42 pm to
In order to legally be blocking the plate, it says

quote:

a. If the ball is in flight directly toward and near enough to the fielder (within 60 feet) that the catcher can make a legitimate effort to field the throw, he is in the act of fielding and can be blocking the runner's pathway.


So while the ball was heading toward him he was legally in position. The exact moment the ball is no longer heading directly toward him he is in an illegal position

This is verbatim from your post of the rule
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25996 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:42 pm to
Read the whole thing again. Mental snapshot. We’re looking at one moment in time. Where is the runner- last few feet. Where is the catcher-blocking the plate. Where is the throw-in the air coming at the catcher.

No obstruction.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

Read the whole thing again. Mental snapshot. We’re looking at one moment in time. Where is the runner- last few feet. Where is the catcher-blocking the plate. Where is the throw-in the air coming at the catcher. No obstruction.
I read the entire thing you posted

The catcher can only be in front of the plate without the ball if the ball is heading directly toward him. Easy as hell to read
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25996 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:43 pm to
He’s there though BECAUSE he was making a legit effort at fielding the throw.
Posted by TigersWin88
Member since Mar 2022
308 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:44 pm to
Can't block the plate if you don't have the ball.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7053 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

The exact moment the ball is no longer heading directly toward him he is in an illegal position


No man. This is false.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:44 pm to
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ere though BECAUSE he was making a legit effort at fielding the throw.
The rule doesn’t say

“And also if you were there because you tried to field a legal throw you can be in front of the plate”

It is extremely clear. You can only be in front of the plate without the ball if “the ball is heading directly to you”
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:45 pm to
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man. This is false.
Im sorry it isn’t. The rule is extremely clear
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7053 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

He’s there though BECAUSE he was making a legit effort at fielding the throw.

I’m not sure how he keeps leaving this out.
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