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re: Did JJ look faster?
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:35 am to CantonTiger128
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:35 am to CantonTiger128
quote:Jefferson's 153.3 would be Top 20 based on his last five starts.
100th out of 116 in passer rating and efficiency last year.
quote:Scored 2 more points per game in Jefferson's last five starts (40 ppg) compared to five games this year (38 ppg).
Scoring 14 more points a game this year compared to last year.
quote:Finished 2010 at #45. Would be Top 10 based upon Jefferson's last five starts.
top 20 in the nation in scoring this year, ranked #80 last year through 5 games.
quote:Jefferson was the #2 RZ QB in 2009.
Red zone in the tops of the nation through 5 games, last year near the bottom of the nation.
quote:You're welcome.
Those are staring us in the face.
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:36 am to BigEdLSU
quote:
Ok I'll take the bait. Since you keep throwing it out there about how you are a great observer because you played college ball..... where did you play? when? pictures? position?
He isn't the only one to play college ball on this board. It's just an excuse to justify his hate for JJ.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:37 am to just me
quote:Lee with a whole season will have an incredible numbers in his last 5 as well
Jefferson's 153.3 would be Top 20 based on his last five starts
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:38 am to dreaux
He didn't look faster, just more decisive. Like he decided he was keeping the ball on every option before the play got started.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:39 am to Ford Frenzy
Do you honestly think JL can lead us to victory over bama w/o JJ?
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:40 am to Topwater Trout
quote:absolutely
Do you honestly think JL can lead us to victory over bama w/o JJ?
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:43 am to Ford Frenzy
quote:
absolutely
I personally don't see any way JL could beat Bama by himself. He does not react well to pressure in his face. He can't elude the rush or buy time in the pocket. Unless we can run effectively on bama we can't win w/o JJ.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:44 am to CantonTiger128
quote:Jarrett Lee had TWO touchdowns last year. That's it. Just two.
The only reason it was not in the 100's in both total offense AND Scoring was because of Lee coming in and saving some games.
Jefferson had a higher TD rate than Lee. Jefferson had 2.3 times as many pass attempts (209 : 89) yet Jefferson 3.5 times as many TD passes (7 : 2). Not ONE of Jefferson's TD passes came on Lee drives.
Oh, and Jefferson also had 7 rushing TDs compared to Lee's ZERO rushing TDs.
quote:Jefferson had more yards per passing attempt. LSU rushed for more yards per carry when Jefferson was QB.
If JL had started last year, and JJ came in for situational type plays, it would have been better.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:45 am to Topwater Trout
quote:
Do you honestly think JL can lead us to victory over bama w/o JJ?
Do you honestly think he can't? How fricking great do you think JJ really is? Seriously? I am STILL amazed that some of you think one is noticeably better than the other.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:45 am to liquid rabbit
When the man you are reading runs towards the RB, you turn upfield and run like hell. That is what JJ did. When the guy you are reading heads to you, the QB, you pitch. What is so difficult to understand about an option run? What was wrong with those decisions?
Some of you people freak out at ANY compliment to JJ. The guy runs the option properly now. Finally. What's wrong with that?
Some of you people freak out at ANY compliment to JJ. The guy runs the option properly now. Finally. What's wrong with that?
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:47 am to Topwater Trout
quote:
He does not react well to pressure in his face
There is video to dispute your assertion. If you would have thrown the word always in there you would have more credibility
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:49 am to Ford Frenzy
quote:But Lee isn't there yet. Jefferson is.
Lee with a whole season will have an incredible numbers in his last 5 as well
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:51 am to CantonTiger128
quote:
if you are saying
Thought I said it pretty clearly, but let me try again.
LSU is a better/deeper team having both Sr QBs than they would be having only one.
I don't know how any reasonable/sane LSU fan would think otherwise.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:51 am to just me
quote:
quote:
Lee with a whole season will have an incredible numbers in his last 5 as well
But Lee isn't there yet. Jefferson is.
Link? Video? Proof? When was the last time you saw JJ throw a pass to assume he is "there" an the other guy isn't? Last season...
Goddamn you people are pathetic.
This post was edited on 10/6/11 at 10:57 am
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:52 am to BigEdLSU
quote:
The guy runs the option properly now. Finally. What's wrong with that?
Absolutely nothing.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:54 am to just me
quote:
Jefferson - Last Five Games 2010
53 of 86 (61.63%) for 788 yards; 9.16 ypa; 5 TDs; 2 Ints; Rating: 153.3
45 rushes for 169 yards (3.76 ypc) 2 TDs
Lee - Last Five Games 2010
10 of 25 (40.00%) for 125 yards; 5.00 ypa; 0 TDs; 0 Int; Rating 82.0
2 rushes for -22 yards (-11.00 ypc) 0 TDs
this settles it. JJ is so awesome!
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Do you honestly think he can't? How fricking great do you think JJ really is? Seriously? I am STILL amazed that some of you think one is noticeably better than the other.
Bama will have no problem targetting JL. He can't throw on the move and he simply will not buy time in the pocket.
It has nothing to do with how good or great JJ is. It is simply his mobility and threat to a defense that will be huge against a team like bama IMO. I don't get how any fans can't agree with this.
I think they both have strengths and weaknesses. To me JL is weak on deep drops or passing plays that need time to develop. 3 step drops is his strength...but we won't be able to run 3 step drops the whole game against bama.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:57 am to just me
quote:
Jarrett Lee had TWO touchdowns last year. That's it. Just two.
Jefferson had a higher TD rate than Lee. Jefferson had 2.3 times as many pass attempts (209 : 89) yet Jefferson 3.5 times as many TD passes (7 : 2). Not ONE of Jefferson's TD passes came on Lee drives.
Hard to throw TD passes when you are taken out of the game when you lead the team to the redzone, would you disagree?
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:00 am to Topwater Trout
quote:
Bama will have no problem targetting JL. He can't throw on the move and he simply will not buy time in the pocket.
It has nothing to do with how good or great JJ is. It is simply his mobility and threat to a defense that will be huge against a team like bama IMO. I don't get how any fans can't agree with this.
I think they both have strengths and weaknesses. To me JL is weak on deep drops or passing plays that need time to develop. 3 step drops is his strength...but we won't be able to run 3 step drops the whole game against bama.
Lee doesn't need JJ in order for LSU to beat Baa, just like LSU can scheme under JJ and doesn't "need" lee to beat the same team. Both could be a benefit.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:01 am to josh336
quote:
Hard to throw TD passes when you are taken out of the game when you lead the team to the redzone, would you disagree?
Wasting your time. He is so deep up JJ's arse it's impossible for him to be reasonable. All he does is cherry pick stats to support his infatuation.
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