re: did JJ exceed your expectations for the season?

Did antone notice what Jefferson has done in the last two games? Tell me what all of you gurus have been missing... Jefferson has led two possible game winning drives in the final minutes... You cant teach that... You have to have the clutch ability... He has the intangibles and has improved but once again you expect greatness when it takes time to be great.. At the least he will be very good if he continues to improve...

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Once again I re-affirm, Crowton didn't help JJ much as far as keeping rhythm and keeping drives going.

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I can assure Crowton gave offense what he felt would be most successful.
I know the resluts often were not what we all wanted that is obv.
However I refuse to believe GC has forgotten how to coach and call plays.
IMO too much criticisim is going on his shoulders and not enough on the players that are ultimatley responsible for being able to convert.

With that said GC isnt going to throw his players under bus, he gets the pay check so the resoponsbility is his to get things fixed.

Did antone notice what Jefferson has done in the last two games? Tell me what all of you gurus have been missing... Jefferson has led two possible game winning drives in the final minutes... You cant teach that... You have to have the clutch ability... He has the intangibles and has improved but once again you expect greatness when it takes time to be great.. At the least he will be very good if he continues to improve...

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your a moron. Please share what game was lost from a lack of team effort?

The one thing I think you can say for Les Miles is that his teams generally gives effort. Better than a LSU coach I have seen in the last 40 yrs anyway.

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100% agree.

you must not be watching then

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Everyone is on the bash JJ wagon.

Hell, look at my history I was a vocal advocate of seeing someone else take snaps.

But reality is this, JJ did about as good as you can expect.

He is looking at a 2500 yard, 20 TD 8 INT season next year...his Jr year where you would expect to see him manage the game a bit better. If we can play some decent D and establish a running game this will be enough to take LSU where ever it needs to go.

Of what LSU has available, JJ is far and away the best choice. The JL Tech game shut my arse up forever.

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I had better expectations and I suppose this was because of his performance in the Peach Bowl last season. Now being realistic, he only played in one game before that and GA Tech was not preparing themselves for the team that LSU had put on the field with their performace during that season. This game was too JJ's advantage and created false confidence at the majority of the fans going into this past season.

I don't think that JJ played up to most of the LSU fans expectations. This teams oveall Def. production was superior in comparison to that lost group that they had last season on the field.

You are looking for 2500 yds., 20 TDs & 8 inteceptions next season from him. How in the hell can a person come up with numbers like this? Did you pull them out of your butt? This is not valid information, simpy conjecture! Why not go ahead and add the sacks he will take and his rushing yd. avg p/game for the season? Heck, he may not see the field next season for some unforseen event!

How do you know he is the best on the team at this position when Chris Garrett, Russell Shepard haven't seen the field as QBs for this team. What if the 2nd rated QB (who is a great baseball player) signs to come to LSU and play on the football team? Also, JL was mentioned before the season to be neck and neck with JJ by the L.M. staff or the LSU Guru's that feed this information to the public. The OC is more than likely going to be a different person, he may want (he better) do something different than Crowton and his brain trust did.

In the LA Tech game JL was forced by the O. play calling to throw 6 passes at apoint in the game when the running game was more than adaquate. Check the stats and Keiland Williams performance up to that point. Also go to the Tulane drive that JL ran and notice that the team waltzed down the field and scored a TD, with supposedly 2nd & 3rd stringers on that drive Talk about throwing a player under the bus!

Are you sleeping with Les Miles? You are a catsclaw removed (meow) tigerfoot! But people like you will take this as a bashing of JJ???????

Watch the movie "Two left feet"? It has nothing to do with anything other than JJ had 6 int. and suffered 30 sacks. In the two seasons that he has started he has 39 sacks with 7 interceptions in 14 starts thus far, that is (-46). Was all of this the other 10 players on the O. Teams fault at all times? Tunnel vision and lacke of seeing is entire receiving core at anytime was as much his problem as JL throwing '6 Picks", plays called by the O.C. on L.M. staff. LSU's offense is 104th the Nation with him as your QB. No, not all his fault, but some of it is (yes).
The season before JL who didn't get to come along slowly, but took the heat for the O.C. by baptism of fire while he didn't start the whole season as Hatch did (REMEMBER)? JL didn't start but maybe 5 or 6 total games (my nos. may be off a tab here) since he has been at LSU. Now during his playing time, JL has a total of 17 int. and 11 sacks. which equates to (-28).
One is only as good as his coaches and numbers do tell something but not the intangibles; of which one was when JL was throwing 6 picks, his team mates couldn't make the tackles on more than half of those? Or his passes were thrown out into the flat and telegraphed by the O. formations; in many instances as JJ's play calling was the same. But in the pocket, JL has a quicker release, better spiral, stronger arm. Where JJ has more mobility and is quicker on his feet. But go back and look at the SACKS? I saw JJ not move or he took too much time to get rid of the ball while looking at only one receiver. JJ does not see the field at this point and time in his career. he also seems to be over anxious and throws balls too high, too wide or too low. Another thing, a lack of peripheral vision is exhibited here!


I'll take an arse pounding for telling it from a view poinnt of objecive reality! What can I expect from immature or fans that see things differently without analyzing all of the factors.

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Also, JL was mentioned before the season to be neck and neck with JJ by the L.M. staff or the LSU Guru's that feed this information to the public.

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So you quote their talent evaluation to support an opinion you hold, then ignore the fact that the ultimate decision that was made that JJ was infact better than the options.

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You are looking for 2500 yds., 20 TDs & 8 inteceptions next season from him

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1. Because he protects the ball.
2. Progression from a soph to Jr.
3. I dont feel that less than 200 ypg average (bowl) is too lofty, I feel it is realistic expectation.

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How do you know he is the best on the team at this position when Chris Garrett, Russell Shepard haven't seen the field as QBs for this team. What if the 2nd rated QB

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Because the coaching staff feels JJ is better. (see your above comments concerning staff)

So you expect a probable pro baseball signee to be our savior as a true freshman....well, I really dont know what to say.

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39 sacks with 7 interceptions

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You do realize we get to keep the ball after a sack.....dont you? Also we get to make first downs and score after a sack, dont you? How many drives did we score on where JJ was sacked? I know two for certain in the last game. You know the one where we tied it up and won. If we throw a pick there we lose, Just in case you REALLY dont see the difference.

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his team mates couldn't make the tackles on more than half of those?

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, another...well we should have our men tackle better. You do realize you are asking OL to tackle DBs in most cases......carry on.

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view poinnt of objecive reality

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Objective view of reality equals:

JL had poor play calling, different from JJ.

JJ sacks equal interceptions

JL scored against Tulane subs, equal success against the likes of FL

Yes sir, objective reality is your middle name.

No pick 6's for TDs. I am over joyed. 9-3 and going to a big bowl game. Awesome job! He should grow and mature, and with the right coordination, will take us to 9 or 10 wins next year!

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How do you know he is the best on the team at this position when Chris Garrett, Russell Shepard haven't seen the field as QBs for this team.

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So what's your record as head coach at LSU? Matches the current coach? Cause I trust him to make tat decision.

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Also, JL was mentioned before the season to be neck and neck with JJ by the L.M. staff or the LSU Guru's that feed this information to the public.

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Yes, it would have been better for both players if the staff came out and said JL has no chance and it's JJ's job hands down

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I'll take an arse pounding

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The JL Tech game shut my arse up forever.

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Don't believe I've ever seen anyone post so boldly the truth when it comes to J. Lee. Real fans--and we've got plenty here--just have a want for their team to WIN. And his play this year was a strong reminder that there's no way Lee can make that happen at LSU.

Also, if the players compete hard and leave everything on the field, win or lose, that's all you can ask from them. (Provided your team's best players are out there and not on the sidelines.)