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re: Did anybody else notice Newton get the snap and just stand there?

Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33232 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:34 pm to
3 main issues:

1. our defensive backfield could NOT shed a block
2. the dline was playing contain and it is a relatively passive scheme
3. poor tackling

They did do some line stunts here and there but the oline just manhandled them.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10300 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:37 pm to

Looked like if the LB's stepped up into the line of scrimmage he headed for the corner and the LB's would get caught up in the bodies at the line of scrimmage.

If the LB's stayed back he just attacked straight up the field and broke tackles and juked them out of their shoes.
Posted by DoubleDeuce
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2006
832 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:39 pm to
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And to say it was working because of the score is nuts. Auburn started with the average worst field position maybe in the history of college football. That's what kept the score down.


And still wasn't that bad of a defensive scheme. It was all based on not giving up the big play. Sure they had a couple, but you can't run blitz a spread! Should they have not played as much nickel, sure, but you start putting an extra man in the box or cover a receiver with a LB and Newton will kill you. Chavis loves to blitz, but you can't do that against an offense like that. Chavis has forgot more about football than anyone on this board will ever know.

The basic plan was to keep the score as low as we could without taking too many risks on defense, minimize the mistakes on offense and get a couple big plays from the special teams.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10300 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:42 pm to

quote:

It was all based on not giving up the big play


It was based on gang tackling and waiting for Auburn to make mistakes, fumbles or interceptions etc.

Auburn didn't make many and Cam Newton just ran over and around people.

Watching Auburns dominance it was a miracle we had even a chance to win the game in the end.
Posted by fastroper
Tampa, FL
Member since Sep 2010
642 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:43 pm to
Cam was just stopping to think what to buy first with all those NFL $ millions he's gonna get...a new private jet...big mansion for mama...maybe one of those Miami Vice gofast boats...maybe even buy a cool laptop just to see what it's like not to steal one, ya know?

He had a lot of time to do a lot of thinking Saturday.
Posted by DoubleDeuce
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2006
832 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:43 pm to
Does anyone on here know how to attack the spread? Most college coaches don't know how. If you have an athlete like Newton it almost can't be stopped.

The most important piece to stopping the spread is DE play. If you have ends that play good in the run game, which we don't, then it's possible to stop.
Posted by DoubleDeuce
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2006
832 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:47 pm to
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It was based on gang tackling and waiting for Auburn to make mistakes, fumbles or interceptions etc.


Who has a defensive scheme based around "gang tackling"? Do you know anything about football? "Gang tacking" isn't a defensive scheme. Neither are turnovers. Turnovers are a product of scheme and effort.
Posted by Florida225
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
2876 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:47 pm to
I love how everyone strokes that dude off so hard, anybody realize that he runs like 13.6 40?
Posted by DoubleDeuce
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2006
832 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:50 pm to
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I love how everyone strokes that dude off so hard, anybody realize that he runs like 13.6 40?


Who Newton? I bet he runs a sub 4.5. That's pretty good for a 6'6" 250 lbs. QB!! Name me someone that big that runs that fast. You'll be hard pressed to find many NFL guys.
Posted by jdrumdog
baton rouge, la
Member since Jan 2010
7655 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:54 pm to
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The bottom line is Auburn has a very good offensive system and have recruited the right people for that system.


which is why this whole "Miles recruits talent" excuse is pathetic. Raw talent is great, but more importantly, if you don't recruit athletes that fit into your system of offensive thought, you won't have much an offense.

We have a schizo offense, simply because we're putting square pegs through round holes.
Posted by jdrumdog
baton rouge, la
Member since Jan 2010
7655 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

The basic plan was to keep the score as low as we could without taking too many risks on defense, minimize the mistakes on offense and get a couple big plays from the special teams.


well, for the defense that was the plan. God knows what the frick the offensive plan was.

But, defensively, it kind of worked. The offense had 3 opportunities to take the game into its hands, and they shelved it. Still proof positive that it takes a complete team to compete, and we just don't have it.
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7728 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:00 pm to
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The bottom line is Auburn has a very good offensive system and have recruited the right person for that system.
Posted by DoubleDeuce
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2006
832 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:00 pm to
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We have a schizo offense, simply because we're putting square pegs through round holes.


100% correct! I saw a recent interview with Bobby Bowden where he said this was FSU's problem his last 10 years or so. They got lazy and recruited who the "experts" said was good. They figured that these "experts" had to be right and that any 5* would fit into their system. It just isn't so.
This post was edited on 10/26/10 at 2:01 pm
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10300 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:04 pm to

quote:

It was based on gang tackling and waiting for Auburn to make mistakes, fumbles or interceptions etc


It was based on playing off the line, letting Cam run and having multiple people get to him to tackle him.

Did you see what happen when one guy tackled him? It didn't work out that well.

Its like zone defense. You sit back and read and react. Rather than attempting to put pressure on him and people running themselves out of the play.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18290 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:06 pm to
Kevin Faulk used to do this too. He could accelerate like hell when a hole opened.
Posted by PinevilleTiger
Pineville, LA
Member since Sep 2005
6353 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:24 pm to
I'd be willing to bet that Saban figures out how to hold the Barn to under 150 yards rushing in the Iron Bowl.
Posted by DoItBoyz
Member since Oct 2010
108 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:26 pm to
We should have all out blitzed his arse. We should have brought the house. He had time to do whatever he wanted back there. No pressure what so ever.
Posted by calicokat
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2009
39 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:31 pm to
so doubledeuce, you are stating that if i get all five star athletes, you will beat with two star athletes because they fit your system? these are kids we are talking about, not seniors/juniors going into the nfl. give me 5 stars and i will crush your 2-3 star team any day of the week!
Posted by Me4Heisman
Landmass
Member since Aug 2004
5512 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

you want to run blitz with 4 down linemen and 2 linebackers, who is gonna be doing the blitzing? you'd be leaving entire thirds of the field uncovered


Under this logic, it's amazing that Nick Saban has ever won a football game.
Posted by calicokat
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2009
39 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:37 pm to
doubledeuce, you must have been some JV quarterback who carried around the clip board!
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