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re: Defense Problems need to be addressed

Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59823 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:29 pm to
Orgeron literally addresses it in his press conference. He literally said exactly what we’ve been saying and these loons can’t grasp. That yesterday’s problems were player mistakes and that we have talent on defense but not great talent (his words verbatim). Now that he has spoken his worshippers can STFU about shite they don’t know.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 7:31 pm
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

The guy they all drool over and compare Aranda to is Brett Venables from Clemson



Can we switch schedules with Clemson and see how their defense compares then? I'm not saying Venables isn't a great coach. I'm saying Arandas faced many more challenges (no 5* dline, no high powered offense until this year obviously, no cupcake schedule etc.) and has still weathered the storms time and time again. He's proven he is worth his salary even if there are areas of improvement needed from our defense.

I also don't get this whole 'Aranda isn't worth the salary he makes'. He is worth whatever value O places on him, and O obviously places a lot of value in keeping him so the $ amount shouldn't even be an argument unless it prohibits us from hiring another great coach/coordinator. I haven't heard Arandas salary being a reason we didn't hire or missed on another coach so I just don't see what it matters.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59823 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:33 pm to
They use the “salary” argument because when this narrative started people starting posting Arandas stats compared to other great DCs and it shut their argument down. So naturally since they couldn’t attack him on production they moved to “well he costs too much.”
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 7:34 pm
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
10615 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:35 pm to
Yes we need to fix somethings but it sounds like you want to get rid of Aranda. I don't think that's a stellar idea. Sorry.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76101 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:35 pm to
Agreed

As much as I want Lawrence and Logan and Fehoko to be elite none of them are near a Wilkins or a Brown.

Shelvin is a boss but his position is not designed to be a pas rushing position.

Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:41 pm to
I agree with you that many of these people are twisted die hard O fans. It's just so weird because O had the opportunity to let him go yet spent every dollar he could to keep him. Wouldn't that make O the fool for paying all that money for a DC that's not worth his pay, in their opinion at least?

Ultimately it doesn't matter what these guys think. O was smart enough to know that Aranda was worth the money and he would need a DC like Aranda not only to compete for the NC but to keep us in games and relevant while O was finding a way to get the offense updated.
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:43 pm to
You see we put up 46 on the greatest DC ever??
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59823 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:48 pm to
Yea don’t take that comment the wrong way, there’s nothing wrong with being an O fan even previously. But, and it’s not exclusive to O, we have some fans that when they exalt a coach or player they view them as infallible and perfect and this leads them down the path of insane Rant takes. So when the offense was struggling you’ll see a lot of the same guys excusing O, warranted or not, so now that the offense is outperforming the D they feel justified in taking vengeance. I know it seems crazy but I’ve watched this from it’s inception, Bama week of last season, and it’s real.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 7:51 pm
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:55 pm to
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Yea don’t take that comment the wrong way, there’s nothing wrong with being an O fan even previously


Hey he turned me in to a fan of his just for this season. Hoping he keeps it rolling for many years to come!
Posted by AndrewD
Member since Oct 2013
726 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 8:00 pm to
Definitely some things to fix on third and long and contain situations.

End of the day Les Miles beat Saban in Tuscaloosa by 3, O won by 4. Defense has to tighten up and not let teams back into the game. We were very lucky to let a champ off the ropes like that. Should have pulled away in the 3rd or at least closed out on 3rd and 19.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 8:04 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47583 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 8:01 pm to
I thought Aranda had Bama thoroughly baffled, and did a great job in this game. He took away everything Bama liked to do the most, and made them throw low percentage passes. Bama converted quite a few because their receivers are elite, and Tua is in a class by himself as a passer.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3581 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 8:02 pm to
Every game we complain about 3rd down conversion. I am guilty of it during the game also. Then when the game is over, I go look at the box score and we performed better on 3rd down than our opponent and the opponent is well under 50%. I would like the opponent’s 3rd down conversion rate to be 20% every week, but maybe that just isn’t realistic.
Posted by Wtxtiger
Gonzales la
Member since Feb 2011
7273 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 8:04 pm to
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need better pass rushers

This is the missing link. If we had Auburn’s front 4, this would be the LSU defense of old. We just had a spell where we missed on those recruits. They saw us as on a decline. We should be able to get some better rushers with the next class or two.
Posted by BigDaddy5151
Alexandria
Member since Dec 2013
585 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 8:05 pm to
Lol. We played one of the best offenses in the nation. With a great quarterback and 4 nfl wide receivers. Several pros on the Alabama offense
Posted by AndrewD
Member since Oct 2013
726 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 8:10 pm to
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the bs Stingley play.


that was a gimmick play. not going to put that on Stingley
Posted by coachkrp
Member since Sep 2006
28 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 8:11 pm to
You are a dumb arse!
Posted by LSUSLU106
Member since Mar 2015
659 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 8:19 pm to
You do realize that you take away the punt return for td which was caused by the special teams and the td that stingley wasn’t even looking when ball was snapped away the defense holds them to 27 points.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29720 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 8:19 pm to
Overjoyed with the win..but the Tackling is atrocious
Posted by TG
Metairie
Member since Sep 2004
3133 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 8:20 pm to
Agree with you 100%.
Posted by LosTigres251
Plano
Member since Mar 2018
1609 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:36 pm to
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Folks, come back down to earth. There were huge holes, long runs, wide open 60+ yard pass plays all over the field. Najee Harris ripped us all night. If our offense had not been so great, this would have been a huge defeat. Wake up????? Look at the games this year and tell me how many times has our defense let the other team back into games? This should scare any sane football fan.


RELAX gramps. LSU has Joe Burrow. The offense will always bail out the defense, if needed. What defense out there can stop them? New England?

Take a deep breath, and think about it. On a neutral field, who are you picking to beat this team?

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