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Posted on 12/16/11 at 9:13 pm to bama1989
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Exactly.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 9:20 pm to Dobermann
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any claimed title pre 1936 is not legit IMO.
Bama was undefeated and won the Southern Conference and then the Rose bowl in 1925. Its as legit a statement for the best team in CFB as any today. We did the same thing in 26' but tied Stanford in the Rose bowl that year. Split Championship. Won it all in 30' and 34'. No one has an argument that we weren't the best team in any of those years. And you should appreciate the historical significance of it. These teams put southern football on the map. Before that no one respected the Southern conference.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 9:25 pm to gptigers
The sense of entitlement runs deep and is self-perpetuating.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 9:31 pm to gptigers
From the article:
1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.
While I do agree some of Bama's NC claims are absurd I think that that particular paragraph cheapens that article. Bama's 1965 championship is legit. What the article doesn't tell you is that Nebraska, Michigan St., and Arkansas, ranked fist through third, all entered New Years Day bowl games undefeated and lost. Bama was ranked fifth as I recall and dominated Nebraska, which had seemed very powerful up to that point.
That was one of the great days in college football history. Startling upsets knocked off the big undefeated three. That was the year, btw, that 7-3 LSU defeated undefeated Arkansas in the Cotton Bowl.
1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.
While I do agree some of Bama's NC claims are absurd I think that that particular paragraph cheapens that article. Bama's 1965 championship is legit. What the article doesn't tell you is that Nebraska, Michigan St., and Arkansas, ranked fist through third, all entered New Years Day bowl games undefeated and lost. Bama was ranked fifth as I recall and dominated Nebraska, which had seemed very powerful up to that point.
That was one of the great days in college football history. Startling upsets knocked off the big undefeated three. That was the year, btw, that 7-3 LSU defeated undefeated Arkansas in the Cotton Bowl.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 9:32 pm to bama1989
Doc Fenton led the 1908 LSU Tigers to a MNC that year.
John Heisman led the 1917 Yellowjackets to a MNC as well.
John Heisman led the 1917 Yellowjackets to a MNC as well.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 9:35 pm to NELA LSU Fan
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And you should appreciate the historical significance of it. These teams put southern football on the map. Before that no one respected the Southern conference.
It is statements like this that give arrogant gumps a bad name. GTF over yourself.
It's like LSU fans bragging about having a professional football team or a professional basketball team. Or how many CWS we won in Omaha. And before you start your delusional claims in baseball- I did say Omaha.
I've been to bama, there's nothing there, it sux all around.
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Posted on 12/16/11 at 9:50 pm to Chadwick
In all fairness to the Gumps, he's absolutely correct. The Rose Bowl win is historic in showing the world that southern football was the real deal! Aside from that.... 
....eff the gumps
....eff the gumpsPosted on 12/16/11 at 9:55 pm to bama1989
Then Bama was the Rose bowl champion. There was no national champion crowned in 1925. Retroactively awarded "championships" are not real.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 10:00 pm to Lacour
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I'm glad I got my wife out of there when I did before he tried to frick her. Luckily she's a good bit older than the bastard.
You, sir, made my night with this. Rotflmao!
Posted on 12/16/11 at 10:23 pm to BananaHammock
We need the Bama facts because some of us work with Bama fans.
Actually the truth is there are no national champions prior to the BCS. AP etc had no authority. They were just a groupoutside of the NCAA voting self appointed. No authority.
Actually the truth is there are no national champions prior to the BCS. AP etc had no authority. They were just a groupoutside of the NCAA voting self appointed. No authority.
Posted on 12/16/11 at 10:59 pm to Lacour
I'm glad I got my wife out of there when I did before he tried to frick her. Luckily she's a good bit older than the bastard. Are you picking up on the vibe that I don't like my brother in law?
Posted on 12/17/11 at 1:50 am to gptigers
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In addition to the 13 championships claimed by the university, Alabama has been recognized by the NCAA as National Champions for the 1945, 1962, 1966, 1967, and 1977 college football seasons. However, those championships are not claimed by Alabama.
WoW - championships that Bama does not claim!!
This post was edited on 12/17/11 at 1:51 am
Posted on 12/17/11 at 1:58 am to omegaman66
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Actually the truth is there are no national champions prior to the BCS. AP etc had no authority. They were just a groupoutside of the NCAA voting self appointed. No authority.
I could be reading this wrong but you do realize that the NCAA does not award a National Championship to Division 1 College Football right???
Posted on 12/17/11 at 3:54 am to geauxalphaomega
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Debunking Alabama's 12 national titles...
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Actually the truth is there are no national champions prior to the BCS. AP etc had no authority. They were just a groupoutside of the NCAA voting self appointed. No authority.
I could be reading this wrong but you do realize that the NCAA does not award a National Championship to Division 1 College Football right???
Good point. I think the important idea here is who was the undisputed best team and was there some recognition for it? In 1925 winning the Southern Conference and the Rose Bowl was the best you could do and recognized by everyone as such.
I am glad we have the BCS now because there is a method for getting #1 to play #2. A lot of times #1 would play #3 or #4 maybe even worst.
In 1977 Texas was #1 and got beat by #5 so bad 38-10 they jumped #3 Bama to win the AP NC. ND was 9-2 and we were 11-1 and won the Sugar Bowl over #8 Ohio State 38-6. #2 Choklahoma lost their bowl game. Imagine how pissed the Bama nation was that year. A similar thing happened in 66' and we were undefeated. ND and MSU tied in their bowl game even though Bama won theirs and the NC in 65'. Another WTF moment for Bama nation. But we don't claim either year because we didn't get recognized by the major polls as such.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 4:00 am to geauxalphaomega
Trying to claim 1962 or 1967 would be ridiculous.
To Bama's credit, they don't try to claim 1945, for the simple reason that '45 Army was '45 Army.
To Bama's credit, they don't try to claim 1945, for the simple reason that '45 Army was '45 Army.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 6:04 am to munchman
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Alabama's 12 national titles...
When you understand this, then you begin to understand why they think they won on Nov 5th
Delusion born from years back and continues to this day.
Dang, that does make sense, crazy as it sounds
Alabama's 12 national titles...
When you understand this, then you begin to understand why they think they won on Nov 5th
Delusion born from years back and continues to this day.
Dang, that does make sense, crazy as it sounds
This post was edited on 12/17/11 at 6:06 am
Posted on 12/17/11 at 6:13 am to gptigers
Posted on 12/17/11 at 7:00 am to TigerNavyDoc
quote:Well Doc, it's like Tom Petty said: "The waiting is the hardest part." Folks around here are so preoccupied with the multitude of emotions that precede the BCSCG that their creativity and ingenuity get stifled a bit. They go around in an endless loop, like the shampoo cycle: they get lathered up about something, forget about it for a while (rinse) and start it up all over again (repeat). January is just around the corner, so keep patching up our Sailors and Marines and any other folks that need it, and soon you'll be able to hold that 3rd crystal ball up (even if it is just the desktop replica) and give all your Bama friends hell. Sincere thanks for your service, we can't thank you enough.
Lol...these days I'm a surgeon, but yeah I get your point. I apologize for my angst, but seriously....seems like we've covered this, and why doesn't lsu count all of their titles, and innumerable other BS topics this week...I'm just ready for some real conversation
Posted on 12/17/11 at 7:26 am to loweralabamatrojan
My favorite Bama National Championship is the 1973 championship. They lost the sugar bowl to Notre Dame 24-23 but still claimed the NC 
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