re: Dandy Don comments today....very frustrating

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As a Les Miles fan, I still get upset with his stubbornness, and inability to adapt and attack a team's weaknesses as opposed to simply doing what we do best regardless of the other teams' strengths and weaknesses.

However, most of you may have seen this, but this is the first time I have seen it. When asked about losing five in a row and if he has thought about adapting the offense to become more effective against Alabama......Les replied that we have not been in a position to win only twice in the five games....so why change our scheme because we weren't effective only twice.........or something to that effect. It is frustrating that we have yet to adapt, and it appeared we had no contingency plan in case the run failed.....but it's even more frustrating that Les still doesn't believe that his strategy is flawed.....it's unbelievable....and I'm a Miles fan.

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It's stubborn to the point of just being stupid.

It's like running into a brick wall 19 times but thinking the next time will be different.

We're playing right into the opponent's hand. Bama's defense is built to stop an I-Formation run attack like ours.

You don't attack your opponent at their strength. And you certainly don't continue to do that once it's been ridiculously proven to be ineffective.

We saw success from the play-action. They were obviously not going to let LF beat them. Our WRs proved they could win on the edges.

Instead of jamming everyone together in an I Formation, why not spread the formation out and create some space? Put LF in the slot. Throw him the ball and give him a chance to do something. Run some screens.

Play action was working. What do we do? Crowd everyone up as tight as possible and continue running into the teeth of the defense.

As a fan, it is just so hard to watch. I felt bad for LF.

It's obvious our Oline is getting beat. Do we change our offense strategy to help them out? No, of course not, lets keep running into the wall.

Then, when the coach is asked about it, he's so arrogantly stupid that he fully admits that he has no plans of changing strategy. Meanwhile, the opponent just laughs and is thankful that we continue to play right into their hands.

I would recommend that Miles read "The Art of War", but I remembered he doesn't read books and remind myself he's too stubborn to accept or apply any of it's principles.

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He's had plenty of "chances" in the form of contract extensions and tenure.

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Fan base...chances with the fans.

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Right, and conversely, its not wrong or shiting on the program to point out things that stink.

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It isn't, I agree. The problem is that that's been happening since long before any valid criticisms were available to harp on. Ranting endlessly for over a decade until you're finally right is just no way to live...

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You don't want an honest conversation because it might involve some negativity where CLM is concerned. It's called super-sensitivity.

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See above. Most that are currently on Miles' arse were on it way WAY before January of 2012. That's just true, and every honest LSU fans knows this. I don;t find anything worthwhile in engaging in an "honest" discussion with fans who have been dishonestly discussing Miles' shortcoming before any really existed...whether there are some now or not.

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Operative words....he took....no one twisted his arm to come here. You make it sound like he had a gun to his head. He knew the microscope he was fixing to crawl under.

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Not at all. But can we not step back and be honest and at least admit that that's some VERY shitty luck? the man takes over a monster program, gets it rolling EVEN bigger, and then while many in the fan base are still whispering that they prefer the old coach the old coach not only comes back to college football but comes back in the same division...and when he comes back, he's WAY better than before? No one would even write that kind of a story because it sounds fricking absurd.

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Now, are you through with your own personal pity party?

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Ironically, I'm not the one that's lived the past decade angry during LSU football season, have I? I've enjoyed the ever living frick out of our success, even when there have been failures. This is entertainment, after all...and it's provided a shite ton of it for me. My only regret is that I've had to share the stadium with whiny fricks that have been miserable the entire time we've been on our greatest run ever. Other than that, I'm swell.

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This is why a number of fans have turned against Miles

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It's a question of how you define changing things up.

Miles is probably referencing wholesale changes. Some people are talking about tweaking the play calling within the current system.

In the end, people just can't handle the loss and lash out against Miles.

This is the bottom line truth. No matter what scheme you play, if the defense you are going up against dominates your strength (whatever that is), the offense is coming to a grinding halt.

LSU passed the ball effectively at times. I think LSU would have done more of that with more effectiveness had we been able to be just semi-effective with the running game. Bama DOMINATED our OL. They didn't just stop Fournette...they prevented him from even being marginally effective.

2nd and 6, 3rd and 3 an additional 10+ times in a game probably adds 14 points to the scoreboard...maybe more.

I didn't predict that Bama woudl totally shut down our running the game the way it did. In fact, if LSU plays Bama again, I'm not sure I'd predict that. It totally surprised me. And, I don't think there were many on this board who expected that.

At the end of the first quarter, I turned to those I was watching the game with and said, we can't run it, and they are running it effectively. This is the worst case scenario.

Tip your cap to Bama. They beat LSU at its game.

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Just and aside

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What?

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there are legitimate arguments that the program has underachieved

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sure they are....but those don't start with calling our coach a buffoon. The overwhelming success of the LSU program over the last 10 years undoubtedly proves that the guy knows what he is doing. The argument to be made is that he is to damn stubborn to tweak what he needs to tweak in order to be even better. I thought this was finally his opportunity to show that he can adjust and attack weaknesses....but his gameplan was just absolutely horrendous. He HAD to know that Bama would sell out to stop #7...and have plan b ready.

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calling our coach a buffoon

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He's not a buffoon...he's a guy who simply cant figure out how to beat BAMA.

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I'm forever who leads this team to the best 10 year run in LSU's history. It doesn't mean that there is no fault, and that he is above questioning

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Then why the negative topic that you posted?

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stubborn to the point of arrogance

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I was thinking ignorance

If you look at their career records at LSU, Nick Saban was 48-16 (a 75% winning record) and Les Miles is 110-30 (a 79% winning record) and Miles has coached now over twice as long. HOWEVER, Nick Saban's record against Alabama at LSU was 4-1 (80%) and Les Miles record at LSU against Alabama is 6-6 (50%).

So it is clear that Tiger fans who are whining don't really care about winning, they only care about beating Bama.

Alabama historically has beaten us 2/3rds of the times we have played them. Winning over 1/3rd of our games against them is a very good record. Nick Saban got lucky that he was at LSU at a very down time for Alabama.

Les Miles still has an even record against Bama. BUT, he does not have a winning record against Nick Saban at Alabama. Jilted lover syndrome.