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re: Damn. People really bought into that 5 second video that his attorney released lmao
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:47 pm to mylsuhat
Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:47 pm to mylsuhat
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Show me the lie
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2017 Kia Cadenza whose driver swerved left to avoid oncoming dodge charger”
The oncoming charger caused a truck to slam on it's brakes which caused the Kia to swerve into oncoming traffic
Same. Thing.
Apparently the truck that the Kia Cadenza was following didn't slam on its brakes at all. The Truck's Event Data Recorder (black box) didn't record any braking. There also wasnt any skidding/tire marks that would be common with a truck driving at 45+ slamming on his brakes. He may have stopped pressing his gas and began slowing naturally. I believe even in his statement, the driver of the truck said that he did not press his brakes.
It's more likely that the Kia Cadenza was talking, eating, or generally not paying attention and finally noticed last second that she was about to impact the truck and decided to swerve into oncoming traffic.
Kyren Lacy was driving recklessly, for sure. The Kia Cadenza driver also wasn't paying attention and reacted poorly causing the head on collision.
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Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:50 pm to SofaKingTrill
This is incorrect. The “black box” data was from the white Kia, not the truck. And the truck driver never said he didn’t brake, only that he didn’t skid.
That’s been a popular misconception around here.
That’s been a popular misconception around here.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 10:41 pm to mylsuhat
He didn’t slam his brakes he even says this you
Moron!
Moron!
Posted on 10/7/25 at 10:56 pm to Maverick14
Was he not behind the wreck or was Moscona just wrong. I am really not sure you can cause a wreck if you were completely behind the cars when it happened and never struck any of them, confused here
Posted on 10/7/25 at 11:01 pm to TutHillTiger
And to be frank, attorneys have a code of conduct and can obviously mislead but will generally be sanctioned if they outright lie. Law enforcement on the other hand as expressly been allowed to lie to the public, to any suspect at any time and has been given essentially complete immunity for this as long as it is within the scope of their duty as lying is considered by the USSC to just be part of typical police work. See Frazier v. Cupp, 394 U.S. 731 (1969). This is why smart people never talk to cops without an attorney present ever
Posted on 10/7/25 at 11:49 pm to Maverick14
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He didn’t slam his brakes he even says this you
Moron!
Quit spreading falsehoods
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the written report from the driver of the gold truck said he had to "slam on the brakes" and emergency brake to try and avoid the crash.
Notice the words in quotes? Those are the truck drivers exact words. He slammed on his brakes, and used his emergency brake. Thats a whole lot of braking
Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:06 am to KiaSportage22
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A lawyer showing a 5 second clip favorable to his client and going on TV? Of course there was more video. Not sure there could have been any more red flags. Holy
I even member the thread trying to praise that racist piece of shite, ryan clark for his comments on live tv.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:34 am to KiaSportage22
We’ve all seen this before at some time in our driving experiences. Idiot driving 80 miles an hour passing other cars like they own the road.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:52 am to lsupride87
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What did I say that wasn’t 100% accurate?
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lsupride87
Your narcissism is unmatched on this site
Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:56 am to Higgysmalls
quote:Over /Under on how many Financial Advisors to the family are disappointed that they can't make commission off the family's NFL money. I say 4.5 at minimum.
Man that Lacy family was counting their money and it got snatched away
Posted on 10/8/25 at 6:02 am to RB10
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What? You think it looks like a setup because he's repeating witness statements back to them to clarify before putting it to paper?
LSP repeated other witnesses statements to a man who hadn't said "green charger" on the bodycam video. This man said the driver behind him caused the crash and REFUSED to sign the trumped up witness statement.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:06 am to Crow Pie
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Over /Under on how many Financial Advisors to the family are disappointed that they can't make commission off the family's NFL money. I say 4.5 at minimum.
I'm talking about the lawsuits everyone said was coming
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:17 am to mylsuhat
Yet the truck driver said he didn’t slam on his break, and the truck EDR shows he didn’t slam on his break but we are suppose to believe he did? And he didn’t see the car behind him swerve to avoid hitting him but let’s believe the lady that saw a car 70+ yards away on a two lane road but not see the car in the left lane lol.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:25 am to Red Stick Tigress
That's what I saw??
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:28 am to Tigrdynasty
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Officer told the man to write down exactly what they discussed earlier when he gave a verbal statement. Stop trying to make this something it isn't.
When did they speak earlier? Gold truck didn't hang around the scene. One of the other men (other drivers?) got his name and number.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:35 am to KiaSportage22
I’m hindsight, I don’t know what his end game was.
He has made Lacy look like the bad guy… again.
He has made Lacy look like the bad guy… again.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:37 am to lsupride87
quote:
2017 Kia Cadenza whose driver swerved left to avoid oncoming dodge charger”
The video and testimony proves 100% beyond any doubt that’s a lie
There was a witness who told the trooper exactly that.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:41 am to Red Stick Tigress
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LSP repeated other witnesses statements to a man who hadn't said "green charger" on the bodycam video. This man said the driver behind him caused the crash and REFUSED to sign the trumped up witness statement.
so put the gold driver up on the stand under oath. (I didn't like the officer leading his statement either but now that I have seen the video of Lacey passing and how close he actually was to the accident, it's vivid he caused the reaction to avoid him.
"Sir, why did you get off to the right? was it to avoid the green car coming in your lane, yes or no?"
if no- what is your reasoning to slowing down and getting off the shoulder o the road which doesn't really exist, you're under oath so choose your words carefully because you're about to be questioned for strange wreckless driving, and leaving the scene"
"If you say yes, it's consistent with video evidence we have, that being said, sir would you like to see it again to refresh your memory before you answer?"
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:04 am to ApexTiger
[quote So ]put the gold driver up on the stand under oath.[/quote]
On the stand where? They can't have a GJ for a dead man.
On the stand where? They can't have a GJ for a dead man.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:08 am to RB10
I’ve read your arguments and fully understand them. However, just playing devils advocate: Is LSP civilly liable for Lacy’s death? Following your logic(which I don’t disagree with, necessarily), had the LSP not overcharged him, he likely wouldn’t have killed himself.
I don’t think you can hold people responsible for how poorly others react to things.
Lacy was driving recklessly and speeding. The woman was speeding, distracted, and following too close. He should have been cited for his part. Ultimately her inability to follow the law and react appropriately caused the accident. Had a squirrel run out in front of the truck and he slammed on his brakes and the same thing happened, would she have been cited with a single ticket? Would they go after the squirrel?
There are a lot of analogies you could make here about cause and effect and the butterfly effect is limitless.
I don’t think you can hold people responsible for how poorly others react to things.
Lacy was driving recklessly and speeding. The woman was speeding, distracted, and following too close. He should have been cited for his part. Ultimately her inability to follow the law and react appropriately caused the accident. Had a squirrel run out in front of the truck and he slammed on his brakes and the same thing happened, would she have been cited with a single ticket? Would they go after the squirrel?
There are a lot of analogies you could make here about cause and effect and the butterfly effect is limitless.
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