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Dabo/Veneables may have cracked to code to Tua - Eyes on Tua - Not WRs
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:33 am
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:33 am
Veneables had his DBs with "eyes on Tua". Tua was killing the teams that had their DBs watch the WRs (most teams these days).
All season, Tua was throwing the ball before the DB had a chance to turn to the ball. This observation was on the SEC show this morning - makes sense. Dabo/Veneables may have cracked to code to Tua. Got my vote.
All season, Tua was throwing the ball before the DB had a chance to turn to the ball. This observation was on the SEC show this morning - makes sense. Dabo/Veneables may have cracked to code to Tua. Got my vote.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 10:43 am
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:43 am to Buckeye Jeaux
I understand what you are saying, but that's just called zone coverage. They were fooling him big time on presnap looks. 1st pick Tua thought it was man to man, but it was zone and it fooled him. Second pick Tua thought it was cover 2 and it was cover 3. They disguised perfectly.
Usually if you are a Corner in man, looking at the QB's eyes is a bad thing because of double moves.
Usually if you are a Corner in man, looking at the QB's eyes is a bad thing because of double moves.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:45 am to Buckeye Jeaux
They definitely cut down on his scampers. I was impressed how they covered downfield and still were able to stop Tua when he took off.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:48 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Biggest reason was Clemson was getting pressure without blitzing. This is easily number one
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:51 am to Buckeye Jeaux
So basically zone instead of man
Also change concepts from pre-snap to post-snap.
NFL concepts. I hope Dave and the defense can implement this... really its should already be the playbook with a guy like CDA.
Also change concepts from pre-snap to post-snap.
NFL concepts. I hope Dave and the defense can implement this... really its should already be the playbook with a guy like CDA.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:53 am to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:that happens in zone coverage. It's different in man-to-man, where the DB is tracking the WR.
Veneables had his DBs with "eyes on Tua". Tua was killing the teams that had their DBs watch the WRs (most teams these days).
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:53 am to Cargeaux89
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I understand what you are saying, but that's just called zone coverage. They were fooling him big time on presnap looks. 1st pick Tua thought it was man to man, but it was zone and it fooled him. Second pick Tua thought it was cover 2 and it was cover 3. They disguised perfectly.
I think their point was a little different than what you are saying. And it was 2 ex-NFL players and an ex HC in agreement about it. I think they were saying that they had "eyes on Tua" in man and zone.
It was Marcus Spears, Tim Tebow and Gene Chizik all in agreement
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 11:02 am
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:53 am to Cargeaux89
This is where I feel Coach Aranda is a little overrated, he never disguises our DBs, they stay in man coverage the entire game. Tua was able to pick our DBs apart because he knew the coverages. Dave Aranda's schemes are stale and they lack complexity.
CEO, Aranda, Moffitt and Stevie E. need to visit Dabo and Clemson this summer.
CEO, Aranda, Moffitt and Stevie E. need to visit Dabo and Clemson this summer.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:01 am to Kool Kaliper
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his is where I feel Coach Aranda is a little overrated, he never disguises our DBs, they stay in man coverage the entire game. Tua was able to pick our DBs apart because he knew the coverages. Dave Aranda's schemes are stale and they lack complexity.
CEO, Aranda, Moffitt and Stevie E. need to visit Dabo and Clemson this summer.
Tua threw for the same amount of yards against us as clemson and less of a completion percentage and Yards per attempt. That is with an offense that provide zero help. Zero
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 11:02 am
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:03 am to Kool Kaliper
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This is where I feel Coach Aranda is a little overrated, he never disguises our DBs, they stay in man coverage the entire game. Tua was able to pick our DBs apart because he knew the coverages. Dave Aranda's schemes are stale and they lack complexity
Without Devin White Aranda's defense held them to 9 points in the first half until Tua's first interception of the season served as a coffin corner kick. Tigers had to punt from the one yard line which led to the short field TD drive right before halftime.
Second half they scored 13 points.
Doubt they scored 20 total with Devin White playing the whole game and equally important with a healthy K'layvonn Chaisson rushing Tua. Remember how disruptive Arden Key was the past two seasons.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:06 am to keeper05
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Tua threw for the same amount of yards against us as clemson and less of a completion percentage and Yards per attempt. That is with an offense that provide zero help. Zero
Exactly. LSU even got a pick. What you couls ee last night is that Tua felt pressured to keep up with Clemson's offense, so he made progressively bad decisions in order to keep scoring. We've got the first two parts of stopping Tua formula:
1 Get pressure on him
2 Disguise coverages
3 Have an offense that can score to create urgency
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:10 am to Kool Kaliper
quote:No.
This is where I feel Coach Aranda is a little overrated, he never disguises our DBs, they stay in man coverage the entire game. Tua was able to pick our DBs apart because he knew the coverages. Dave Aranda's schemes are stale and they lack complexity. CEO, Aranda, Moffitt and Stevie E. need to visit Dabo and Clemson this summer
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:17 am to tigersbb
quote:Bama gained 320 yards in the first half alone, including scoring drives of 78, 75, and 54 yards.
Without Devin White Aranda's defense held them to 9 points in the first half until Tua's first interception of the season served as a coffin corner kick. Tigers had to punt from the one yard line which led to the short field TD drive right before halftime.
Please don't insinuate that Aranda's defense held Bama in check this year. They dominated us: 281 yards rushing (7.6 yd/rush) and 295 passing - 576 for the game.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:22 am to Cargeaux89
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1st pick Tua thought it was man to man, but it was zone and it fooled him.
They weren't in zone. The CB was in man, but he came off his man to make the interception because he knew Tua had to get rid of it quick with the corner blitz. It was a great play by the CB.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:35 am to Cargeaux89
I think Bama is capable of fixing weaknesses
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:40 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Does this mean we can score on them next year?
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:45 am to Cargeaux89
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1st pick Tua thought it was man to man, but it was zone and it fooled him.
I'm pretty sure it was man coverage, the DB just saw where Tua was going and left his man to break on the ball.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:57 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Is it cracking a code or playing a team that matches their talent on both sides of the ball? He didn't have all day in the pocket to throw to wide open receivers. Look what happened with Georgia. The Georgia game showed his issues. Everyone wanted to blame it on an injury. He doesn't take what the defense gives him. He wants home runs on every play.
He reminds me of Zack Mettenberger. He had a great arm with very talented receivers who he thought could bail him out of any situation.
Alabama did a marvelous PR Campaign making everyone believe he was the second coming. While they played the sisters of the poor his numbers were ridiculous and there was no evidence to dispute what the media was regurgitating.
He reminds me of Zack Mettenberger. He had a great arm with very talented receivers who he thought could bail him out of any situation.
Alabama did a marvelous PR Campaign making everyone believe he was the second coming. While they played the sisters of the poor his numbers were ridiculous and there was no evidence to dispute what the media was regurgitating.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 11:58 am
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:02 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
That worked really well for that Georgia DB last year
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:10 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Tua got fooled because he was confused with certain coverages, but also had the wrath of the big uglies breathing down his neck. To beat them, you have to have 3 levels of stellar defensive play. When we played them we had 1.5. We got very little pressure on him. They were all over him last night.
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