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re: Current list of LSU's early entrants to NFL Draft.... (UPDATED OP)
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:38 am to TigerStripes30
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:38 am to TigerStripes30
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CJ mosely
so 1
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HAHA Clinton Dix
this was his first year to leave
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just to name a few
you named 1
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 9:39 am
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:38 am to Chase.E.Chabaud
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Is wing still in the league? Did I miss something?
Wing was signed by the steelers over the weekend.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:40 am to clamdip
I would rather lose all the underclassmen LSU has lost recently than have the same personnel all as undraftable 4th and 5th year seniors
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:41 am to TigerStripes30
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CJ mosely
HAHA Clinton Dix
just to name a few
Holy fail.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:43 am to PropofoLSU
ok AJ McCarren
Barret Jones stayed his Sr year as well
Reason i say AJ is because if anybody else's QB won 2 straight BCSNC games they gone
Barret Jones stayed his Sr year as well
Reason i say AJ is because if anybody else's QB won 2 straight BCSNC games they gone
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:44 am to JBeam
Hey bro, however you want to justify it not being a problem for LSU is your business.
But certainly you can come up with something better than than that.
But certainly you can come up with something better than than that.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:44 am to clamdip
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Bama seems to know how to preach this. LSU lost 11 early guys last year to the draft; next closest in the SEC was Florida at 4 and then UGA at 3. Don't pretend this isn't a mentality that LSU seems to have embedded in its culture right now.
Really? I mean go be a Bama fan if all you have to do is compare the state of LSU to anything Bama does.
Maybe you should check out how that has resulted for their players in the NFL. LSU players are in starting line-ups...Bama players are not as much. LSU preaches what is best for the kid and let's him make a decision.
If you don't understand achieving your dream, then I can't help you. But maybe these kids dreamed of playing in the NFL and not as much as they dreamed of getting a degree or winning a title. The sure thing about being drafted is you get a chance to earn the roster spot.
They choose to come back...there is a 1 in 120 shot of earning a national title.
Any RB that is eligible and will be drafted is silly to not go. Their careers are too short for them to waste valuable time taking poundings in the SEC when they could take them in the league earning money.
Shaq didn't graduate while a student at LSU...he has a doctorate now. You think they can't take online classes to finish their degree? Get a clue man. This thread wreaks of butthurt from your selfish perspective. How about you say...congrats to OBJ and Landry for stellar careers at LSU and thank them for their time at your university embodying what it means to be an LSU student athlete and wish them luck in their future NFL careers??? Is that too much to ask???
How about you welcome the new opportunities that other players will have to make a name for themselves in their absence? Kids come to LSU to play ball...everyone sticks around for 4-5 years and you have unhappy student athletes looking to transfer and take that talent somewhere that doesn't benefit LSU anyway.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:45 am to TigerStripes30
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ok AJ McCarren
Barret Jones stayed his Sr year as well
Reason i say AJ is because if anybody else's QB won 2 straight BCSNC games they gone

Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:45 am to TigerStripes30
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ok AJ McCarren
Mett stayed
and Loston
and Copeland

Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:46 am to BT
You have two years of data on LSU players leaving early. Instead you make it sound like this has been going on for decades.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:47 am to nicholastiger
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Posted by nicholastiger I would rather lose all the underclassmen LSU has lost recently than have the same personnel all as undraftable 4th and 5th year seniors
Meh, when the results on field are same what's the difference?
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:47 am to BT
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when the results on field are same what's the difference?
How do you know the results are the same?
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:48 am to Salmon
3rd -4th-5th on the sec, what's the difference?
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:48 am to BT
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justify it not being a problem for LSU
What exactly is the problem? Maybe I am stupid and don't understand how players getting drafted as juniors is a problem (it's the nature of the beast and part of the game). Are you stating this as knock on Miles and the staff?
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:49 am to Tigers'Mojo
For those of you still ranting that there is no reason for guys to stay, to improve their draft stock under the new CBA, you probably don't understand the 5th Year Option on the new CBA.
It does provide demarcation between being...
1. a Top 10 pick
2. a 1st round pick (11-32)
3. a 2nd+ round pick
If you have a chance to improve your stock into 1st round, or from lower 1st round into top 10, it would be a good business move to consider returning to school.
Also, there is a total rookie cap each team uses. And that cap can be sloshed around throughout their picks. Now, what do you think the odds of a 2nd round pick being given more of that pool than a 3rd round pick? (hint: pretty good)
But, yeah, y'all just keep going with the mantra that there is nothing LSU can do to 'splain the pros/cons better for these kids. And that "I'd rather lose them than not have them in the first place".... which is a silly argument.
I'd rather have them and have less of them going pro in order to get put on a practice squad or get drafted just outside the 1st round when they can improve their position.
It does provide demarcation between being...
1. a Top 10 pick
2. a 1st round pick (11-32)
3. a 2nd+ round pick
If you have a chance to improve your stock into 1st round, or from lower 1st round into top 10, it would be a good business move to consider returning to school.
Also, there is a total rookie cap each team uses. And that cap can be sloshed around throughout their picks. Now, what do you think the odds of a 2nd round pick being given more of that pool than a 3rd round pick? (hint: pretty good)
But, yeah, y'all just keep going with the mantra that there is nothing LSU can do to 'splain the pros/cons better for these kids. And that "I'd rather lose them than not have them in the first place".... which is a silly argument.
I'd rather have them and have less of them going pro in order to get put on a practice squad or get drafted just outside the 1st round when they can improve their position.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:50 am to BT
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3rd -4th-5th on the sec, what's the difference?
How do you know the results wouldn't be worse with a bunch of undraftable seniors playing for LSU?
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:51 am to JBeam
No I don't.
I'm talking specifically about past two years.
It's not a good trend for the program to lose this amount of underclassmen.
I'm talking specifically about past two years.
It's not a good trend for the program to lose this amount of underclassmen.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:52 am to BT
What do you expect? Show me a list of players from the past two years that should have stuck around the program?
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:52 am to PurpleAndGold86
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Name them. Go ahead.
2013 All- SEC Team
FIRST TEAM
Offense
WR -- Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt, 6-3, 205, Sr.
L -- Gabe Jackson, Mississippi State, 6-4, 340, Sr.
L -- Jake Matthews, Texas A&M, 6-5, 305, Sr.
L -- t-Justin Britt, Missouri, 6-6, 315, Sr.
L -- t-Anthony Steen, Alabama, 6-3, 309, Sr.
C -- Travis Swanson, Arkansas, 6-5, 315, Sr.
TE -- Arthur Lynch, Georgia, 6-5, 254, Sr.
Defense
E -- u-Michael Sam, Missouri, 6-2, 255, Sr.
E -- Dee Ford, Auburn, 6-2, 240, Sr.
LB -- u-C.J. Mosley, Alabama, 6-2, 232, Sr.
CB -- E.J. Gaines, Missouri, 5-11, 195, Sr.
S -- Kenny Ladler, Vanderbilt, 6-1, 205, Sr.
Mett was LSU's only senior player this year who had a prayer of making First Team All-SEC (but didn't), and I can't think of any seniors on next years team who have a chance of making first team All-SEC either.
A lot of the seniors on this All-SEC team will be drafted higher than most of LSU's juniors were last season. Debating whether or not the All-SEC Seniors made a wise financial decision is an entirely different argument; the point is that other SEC schools managed to have some seniors who were really good at football this season.
Only 19 BCS schools had a player declare and then not get drafted in the top 100 picks last season. Only 6 schools lost more than 1 player who wasn't a top 100 pick. LSU lost 5. It's not happening everywhere.
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