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re: Curious: how many people here expect an LSU beat-down of Oregon?
Posted on 8/7/11 at 12:23 pm to bisonduck
Posted on 8/7/11 at 12:23 pm to bisonduck
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Yes, but you weren't blowing people out. The point is whether this will be a beat down. It won't happen if you're one dimensional.
Don't ever say it won't happen, usually that is when it does happen...
From reading Oregon fans responses and takes on Jefferson and taking them as a whole...I'm taking it that Oregon fans do not realize JJ has proven in the past that he can throw the ball with success and over the course of an entire season...
Just like Oregon fans always bring up the Tennesse game by comparing the scores without looking at the stats which LSU has the same stats as Oregon did except in one category...turnovers...LSU had 5 that allowed UT to stay in that game...
and just like ignoring the stats from reading the posts from Oregon fans they have not looked at JJ's stats from his sophomore season...
Over 12 games JJ completed 182-of-296 passes for 2,166 yards with 17 touchdowns and seven interceptions...
Now that Crowton is gone and I believe he was one of the biggest problems for our QB's last season with his play calling and over complicating things...if JJ has anything similar to those stats this season LSU is going to be VERY tough to beat...
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Posted on 8/7/11 at 12:33 pm to PDXAnas
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Jefferson sucks, and he's not going to magically get better.
This. Face it, the man has a point.
With that said.....as in years past, LSU will win in spite of Jefferson.
This post was edited on 8/7/11 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 8/7/11 at 12:41 pm to PDXAnas
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Who here thinks LSU is gonna whip Oregon's arse bad?
Not I
Posted on 8/7/11 at 12:41 pm to deuceiswild
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This. Face it, the man has a point.
With that said.....as in years past, LSU will win in spite of Jefferson.
Yeah no qb has ever progressed from they're junior year to their senior year.
Signed, Jason Campbell and Dennis Dixon.
I'm not saying JJ will be as good as either, but just because a kid has a slump one year, does not mean they can't be better. Some of you people need to watch more football and quit being message board sheep.
Posted on 8/7/11 at 1:10 pm to NicoBlues
All this talk about JJ. Is J. Lee a viable alternative if JJ doesn't play well?
This post was edited on 8/7/11 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 8/7/11 at 1:25 pm to BooBoo
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All this talk about JJ. Is J. Lee a viable alternative if JJ doesn't play well?
From all the reports, he has had a strong offseason. He lost about 10/15 lbs and everyone that watches practice
says he is more accurate than JJ. He is definitely the best back up qb in the SEC right now. I hope we font have to see him, because I'm confident that JJ is going to turn the corner this year, but I'm not worried about him if he has to come in. I was a pretty big doubter of jj last year, though not vocally or on here. But people are too quick to write off 19-21 year old kids in football; players mature at different times in their career. 27 more days
This post was edited on 8/7/11 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 8/7/11 at 1:33 pm to NicoBlues
This LSU team will be just as good if not better at every position save for 1 DT spot, and the QB position than the Auburn team that beat Oregon last season.
Has Oregon subsequently improved?
Has Oregon subsequently improved?
Posted on 8/7/11 at 1:35 pm to bisonduck
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Yes, but you weren't blowing people out. The point is whether this will be a beat down. It won't happen if you're one dimensional.
If JJ can throw the ball better this year (there's some reason to think that might happen), and LSU can be less predictable (Crowton is gone), LSU will be a tough out.
LSU only threw the ball for 200 yards 4 times last year, and in 3 of those 4 games (Tennessee, Bama, Ole Miss) they also ran for over 200 yards. LSU only ran for over 200 yards two other times the rest of the season.
LSU has a good run game, but if they can make the defense respect the pass, the run game going to be that much better this year.
Posted on 8/7/11 at 1:59 pm to PDXAnas
I wish I was as confident as other LSU fans. I can't say that I am. Miles' decision making and Jefferson's on field play have failed me one too many times for me to say I think it will be a blowout. I do think we have enough talent to overcome that should something like that happen.
Despite what other LSU fans say, Oregon's offense scares me. Especially the possibility of trick plays and foreign formations. And the fact that we will probably be breaking in 2 new linebackers could be troublesome. They'll have to know their assignments and watch the ball so they dont get lost on the read plays.
AS far as "seeing how OR's o-line shapes up"....if you dont know by now, then chances are they wont be any better than you expect.. Probably the other way around, actually.
Despite what other LSU fans say, Oregon's offense scares me. Especially the possibility of trick plays and foreign formations. And the fact that we will probably be breaking in 2 new linebackers could be troublesome. They'll have to know their assignments and watch the ball so they dont get lost on the read plays.
AS far as "seeing how OR's o-line shapes up"....if you dont know by now, then chances are they wont be any better than you expect.. Probably the other way around, actually.
This post was edited on 8/7/11 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 8/7/11 at 2:29 pm to St Augustine
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This LSU team will be just as good if not better at every position save for 1 DT spot, and the QB position than the Auburn team that beat Oregon last season.
Has Oregon subsequently improved?
All of the national pundits are proclaiming our backfield as the best (rivals, cbs, scout, etc). Sorry, I know you are in love with WARE and Ford but LMJ and Barner are proven. Likewise, Huff got 500+ yards as a true frosh. Darron Thomas was 30 tds and 9 ints and we have reserves coming through the ranks like De'Anthony Thomas, Carson and Seastrunk
. I know Magee is getting Buzz and that you have Blue, Hilliard. However, LMJ is a doak walker award winner, Barner is just a step behind in talent, Huff had as much or more production than Ware and Ford, and Seastrunk and De'Anthony are off the charts prodigious talents. Carson is our 227 6'0" power back is getting some buzz just like Magee.
For as stacked as you guys think you are, there is a reason we're #3 in the polls.
Posted on 8/7/11 at 2:34 pm to DucksflyinPAC
I think yall will have one legitimate touchdown drive, one long single-play touchdown, and a field goal or two.
We score a fieldgoal to break the tie after an Oregon turnover.
LSU 23 - Oregon 20
It's either going to be extremely close, or we beat yall by 25, most likely the former.
We score a fieldgoal to break the tie after an Oregon turnover.
LSU 23 - Oregon 20
It's either going to be extremely close, or we beat yall by 25, most likely the former.
This post was edited on 8/7/11 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 8/7/11 at 2:50 pm to bisonduck
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...there is a reason we're #3 in the polls.
Yup same reason Alabama was ranked number one in the preseason last year...sportswriters not doing their homework.
Alabama had issues that were overlooked, just as Oregon has this year. The Tide lost three games last year. I'd say the Ducks will lose that many, except you guys play more cupcake than they do.
Your Ducks will not match up well with my Tigers. And the final score will reflect that.
Posted on 8/7/11 at 3:17 pm to bisonduck
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For as stacked as you guys think you are, there is a reason we're #3 in the polls.
Preseason polls mean nothing...ask Bama who was #1, Texas #4, and Va Tech #6 this time last year in the coaches poll and LSU was #16 and that final poll at the end of the year Bama was 11, Texas was licking its nuts out of the poll and Va Tech was 15 and LSU was 8th and basically a few plays away from being undefeated even without any consistency from the QB position all year...
Posted on 8/7/11 at 3:35 pm to bisonduck
Honestly, there are some things that people need to get straight.
First off, LSU's game versus UNC last year is not a good example to use for multiple reasons:
UNC had 10+ players suspended and LSU took them lightly after they got up early. Furthermore, LSU's offense started shutting down, which is a notorious problem Les shows sometimes. Also, LSU got burned by big plays on young players and stupid fumbles. That won't happen against a juggernaut.
Secondly, LSU has struggled in opening games, but circumstances have to be acknowledged.
1) OSU was under Saban and was following multiple delays and played following a monsoon.
2) ASU in '05 was a clusterfrick because of Katrina, was moved TO ASU last second and was ASU's second game and LSU's first. I'd say those could make the game more difficult.
3) In 2006, 2007, and 2008, LSU dominated their opening games including an 8-5 MSU team on the road.
Also, LSU'ess defense lost 3 great players, but will be upgraded with the return of Montgomery, and starting of Brockers and Downs at DT. Freak will be good, but people forget that LSU also has Ego Ferguson who will be a great fit there.
At LBer, it will hurt to lose Sheppard, but we have a lot of talent in the middle that has experience. DB goes without saying with tons of talent and not something to worry about.
That all said, it will be a tough game and anyone claiming LSU will blow out Oregon as of right now is a delusional moron. There is nothing to justify it as or right now.
First off, LSU's game versus UNC last year is not a good example to use for multiple reasons:
UNC had 10+ players suspended and LSU took them lightly after they got up early. Furthermore, LSU's offense started shutting down, which is a notorious problem Les shows sometimes. Also, LSU got burned by big plays on young players and stupid fumbles. That won't happen against a juggernaut.
Secondly, LSU has struggled in opening games, but circumstances have to be acknowledged.
1) OSU was under Saban and was following multiple delays and played following a monsoon.
2) ASU in '05 was a clusterfrick because of Katrina, was moved TO ASU last second and was ASU's second game and LSU's first. I'd say those could make the game more difficult.
3) In 2006, 2007, and 2008, LSU dominated their opening games including an 8-5 MSU team on the road.
Also, LSU'ess defense lost 3 great players, but will be upgraded with the return of Montgomery, and starting of Brockers and Downs at DT. Freak will be good, but people forget that LSU also has Ego Ferguson who will be a great fit there.
At LBer, it will hurt to lose Sheppard, but we have a lot of talent in the middle that has experience. DB goes without saying with tons of talent and not something to worry about.
That all said, it will be a tough game and anyone claiming LSU will blow out Oregon as of right now is a delusional moron. There is nothing to justify it as or right now.
Posted on 8/7/11 at 3:50 pm to Geaux2002
Agreed. I think we shut down Oregon's attack just enough as Auburn did to win. I don't see us losing and I believe the score will be about 27-17 game.
Posted on 8/7/11 at 5:16 pm to bisonduck
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bisonduck
That is an impressive group of RBs. Now tell us how good that o line is? The one that lost 4 of 5 starters. You guys have tons of skill players, but we're going to.eat you lunch in the trenches.
Posted on 8/7/11 at 5:30 pm to NicoBlues
The one that lost 4 of 5 starters.
I love you guys. At most you could consider us losing 3 of 5 but it's more like 2 when you consider Weems got the nod 7 times, including Tennessee, USC, Stanford and Auburn. We will have only one new face on the line.
However, next time this is brought up, please, by all means, say that we are losing the entire line and bringing back no starts (instead of 54).
Although, my original post was in response to saying that we are only better at two positions and brought up RB.
I love you guys. At most you could consider us losing 3 of 5 but it's more like 2 when you consider Weems got the nod 7 times, including Tennessee, USC, Stanford and Auburn. We will have only one new face on the line.
However, next time this is brought up, please, by all means, say that we are losing the entire line and bringing back no starts (instead of 54).
Although, my original post was in response to saying that we are only better at two positions and brought up RB.
Posted on 8/7/11 at 5:34 pm to bisonduck
LSU 35
Ducks 14
This will be Miles at his best !
The Texas Heat will still be awful !
And we have great size and speed on defense which is something that even Auburn didnt have.
Ducks 14
This will be Miles at his best !
The Texas Heat will still be awful !
And we have great size and speed on defense which is something that even Auburn didnt have.
Posted on 8/7/11 at 5:35 pm to bisonduck
I would rather have 4 really talented, somewhat unproven backs and a senior laden, great offensive line, than a couple of superstar backs with a decent but unproven OL. And its not just about who starts, but how much experienced depth you have. But if you want to act like your OL isn't a big question mark coming into this season, go ahead. We only have 27 days till we show how much of a problem it really is
This post was edited on 8/7/11 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 8/7/11 at 5:36 pm to Geaux2002
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but we have a lot of talent in the middle that has experience.
like.....
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