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re: Crews is burrowesque
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:46 pm to Penrod
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:46 pm to Penrod
Ummmm, off the top of my head other than the other 4 or 5 players who are basically contributing "as much" as Crews is on "this years team" tbw...let me repeat that, "there are 4 or 5 players right now on lsu's team that are EQUALLY contributing as much as Crews is thus far" let me see ok, not gonna include 1 year wonders...
Ben
Russ johnson
Jason williams
Todd walker
Eddy furniss
Mike koerner
Blair barbier
Trey McClure
Ryan Theriot
Mike Fontenot
Aaron Hill
Joey Bell
Lyle Mouton
Blake Dean
Ryan Schrimpf
DJ Lemahieu
Aaron Nola
Mason Katz
Raph Rhymes
Andrew Stevenson
Jake Fraley
Antoine Duplantis
Greg Diechman
Josh Smith
Cade Doughty
Dylan Crews
Tre Morgan
Gavin Dugas
Jared Jones(projecting based in evidence so far)
Tommy White(projecting)has another year...
I even left off other mlb guys who started for mlb but you get the picture.
Of course this list isnt good enough and Crews is the Goat right?
Ummm im leaving a bunch of pitchers off the list who "impacted" their teams success in past years. Some of the above had great stats and sometimes so so stats but they all and many others who played 3 or 4 years had a great effect/impact of carrying on the great tradition that is"now" the LSU Baseball program!
Ben
Russ johnson
Jason williams
Todd walker
Eddy furniss
Mike koerner
Blair barbier
Trey McClure
Ryan Theriot
Mike Fontenot
Aaron Hill
Joey Bell
Lyle Mouton
Blake Dean
Ryan Schrimpf
DJ Lemahieu
Aaron Nola
Mason Katz
Raph Rhymes
Andrew Stevenson
Jake Fraley
Antoine Duplantis
Greg Diechman
Josh Smith
Cade Doughty
Dylan Crews
Tre Morgan
Gavin Dugas
Jared Jones(projecting based in evidence so far)
Tommy White(projecting)has another year...
I even left off other mlb guys who started for mlb but you get the picture.
Of course this list isnt good enough and Crews is the Goat right?
Ummm im leaving a bunch of pitchers off the list who "impacted" their teams success in past years. Some of the above had great stats and sometimes so so stats but they all and many others who played 3 or 4 years had a great effect/impact of carrying on the great tradition that is"now" the LSU Baseball program!
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:50 pm to Tshiz
Crews is outstanding, but I don't feel he has surpassed Todd Walker yet. He could with a great year (and he sure is on the way).
These are numbers Dylan needs to equal Todd's career offensive numbers (I will give Dylan the edge defensively, though Todd had MLB career Fielding % .981):
ABS - 227 (not likely), Hits - 108 (very unlikely), Runs - 69 (will pass at current pace), 2B - 28 (very unlikely), 3B - 9 (very unlikely), HR - 7 (basically a lock), RBI - 109 (very unlikely), TB 175 (unlikely), BB - 41 (likely at current pace), SO - Dylan already has 18 more.
Dylan's problem is that he is getting walked so much. Add in the 27 innings "stolen" from LSU hitters so far.
Todd had career BA .396, Dylan at .370, slugging % Todd .711, Dylan at .700, (NB: OBP Dylan .478, could not find Todd's career number; so also can't compare career OPS, but Dylan's is mind-boggling this year at 1.570)
Love 'em both and hope Dylan crushes it the rest of the year.
These are numbers Dylan needs to equal Todd's career offensive numbers (I will give Dylan the edge defensively, though Todd had MLB career Fielding % .981):
ABS - 227 (not likely), Hits - 108 (very unlikely), Runs - 69 (will pass at current pace), 2B - 28 (very unlikely), 3B - 9 (very unlikely), HR - 7 (basically a lock), RBI - 109 (very unlikely), TB 175 (unlikely), BB - 41 (likely at current pace), SO - Dylan already has 18 more.
Dylan's problem is that he is getting walked so much. Add in the 27 innings "stolen" from LSU hitters so far.
Todd had career BA .396, Dylan at .370, slugging % Todd .711, Dylan at .700, (NB: OBP Dylan .478, could not find Todd's career number; so also can't compare career OPS, but Dylan's is mind-boggling this year at 1.570)
Love 'em both and hope Dylan crushes it the rest of the year.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:53 pm to DeafVallyBatnR
quote:
Not even close Edit: You guys think a great center fielder is like probably the QB of the greatest offensive team ever in the NCAA.
Show me the guy who has never played baseball and seen a 90+ MPH fast ball with movement and hitting .500 for the year. Wait…I found him.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 8:03 am to Thacian
quote:
there are 4 or 5 players right now on lsu's team that are EQUALLY contributing as much as Crews is thus far"
No there is not. You really put a guy who was second team All SEC and had a total of 1 homerun his junior year and compared him to Crews. Wow lol
This post was edited on 3/14/23 at 8:07 am
Posted on 3/14/23 at 8:12 am to Thacian
quote:I don’t think you understand how good he actually is.
I can name 20 lsu players no one can say he was necessarily better than. He will leave here as a great player in a long line of great players. Thats it. He aint the goat.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 8:17 am to Thacian
quote:You didn’t just move the goalpost… you moved it and made it 100x bigger. We were talking about the best players to come to LSU. When we list them, 3 automatically come to mind… Ben, Walker, Furniss. There’s a reason those 3 are above others… their output and success in comparison to their contemporaries. Crews is likely to finish on that level and everyone who knows the game agrees that he’s not just great, he’s special. Talking about “impact” is a fricking joke. No one’s threshold is that low.
Ummm im leaving a bunch of pitchers off the list who "impacted" their teams success in past years.
This post was edited on 3/14/23 at 8:18 am
Posted on 3/14/23 at 8:19 am to Tshiz
quote:
When he’s in the batters box, he seems in control, not the pitcher.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 8:20 am to EulerRules
The pitching around college baseball and, more specifically, the SEC was no where close to the same talent level in 1992-1994 as it is from 2021-2023.
18 year olds with great arms almost never made it to college in 1992. Todd Walker went through many SEC three game series only seeing one or two arms that even topped 90 mph.
18 year olds with great arms almost never made it to college in 1992. Todd Walker went through many SEC three game series only seeing one or two arms that even topped 90 mph.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 8:27 am to EulerRules
quote:No. The problem is that Dylan plays in the dead bat/ball era vs pitchers who would never have sniffed college in 1991. The batting totals that were being put up in the 90s were stupid. -5 bats, the OG reflex (adding about 10pm ball speed), the best pitchers topping out at 91-93… Sanford had 4 guys hit 94.
Dylan's problem is that he is getting walked so much. Add in the 27 innings "stolen" from LSU hitters so far.
Todd had career BA .396, Dylan at .370, slugging % Todd .711, Dylan at .700, (NB: OBP Dylan .478, could not find Todd's career number; so also can't compare career OPS, but Dylan's is mind-boggling this year at 1.570)
What you have to try and do is compare him vs other players who are currently in college or have been since 2015. No one hits it harder more often and maybe never has in the college game. His ball speed when he makes contact is unreal. He’s a true 5 tool players who could probably play any position well if you asked him to. And he can do it vs guys throwing 95-98 consistently. He’s the best position player in the country and it’s not even close.
This post was edited on 3/14/23 at 8:29 am
Posted on 3/14/23 at 9:22 am to ell_13
quote:
I don’t think you understand how good he actually is.
That’s quite the understatement.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 9:24 am to ell_13
quote:
He’s a true 5 tool players who could probably play any position well if you asked him to.
There is still a decent chance he's the best catcher on the roster.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 9:31 am to ProjectP2294
quote:
There is still a decent chance he's the best catcher on the roster.
There a decent chance he’d be the best catcher in college baseball. Actually I have no doubt he would be had he started there. And he’s starting to get Andruw Jones like jumps on deep fly balls in center.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:09 pm to ell_13
ell_13
My post started with “Crews is outstanding, but I don't feel he has surpassed Todd Walker yet. He could with a great year (and he sure is on the way)”.
I said this even though I noted he might not beat some of Todd’s statistics, because, I think you’ll agree, statistics do not tell the entire story, but they are important.
Perhaps I wasn’t clear. Crews is an outstanding player with great potential. My point is for me to judge him a greater Tiger player, I will wait until his career is over. That is why I wrote “yet”. And many factors go into the “Greatness equation”, including as you point out the level of pitching, baseballs, bats, and many more. But it’s not a cut and dried equation, so everyone will have their own factors and weighting of those factors. The point about the BB to me is I think it could be more significant than the better pitching now as far as Dylan achieving statistics comparable to Todd’s. If Dylan is walked over once a game (his current rate), then that will markedly affect his career totals of hits, RBI’s, 2B, HR, and, in my opinion, more so than the current pitching differential. However, there is no way to quantify exactly how each of those factors will effect Dylan’s final career stats. We will all make our own judgments. And to repeat, I feel Crews is well on the way to being the greatest LSU baseball player over, and if his current level of play continues the rest of the year, then I don’t think anyone would disagree, regardless of how any of us construct and compute the “Greatness equation”.
My post started with “Crews is outstanding, but I don't feel he has surpassed Todd Walker yet. He could with a great year (and he sure is on the way)”.
I said this even though I noted he might not beat some of Todd’s statistics, because, I think you’ll agree, statistics do not tell the entire story, but they are important.
Perhaps I wasn’t clear. Crews is an outstanding player with great potential. My point is for me to judge him a greater Tiger player, I will wait until his career is over. That is why I wrote “yet”. And many factors go into the “Greatness equation”, including as you point out the level of pitching, baseballs, bats, and many more. But it’s not a cut and dried equation, so everyone will have their own factors and weighting of those factors. The point about the BB to me is I think it could be more significant than the better pitching now as far as Dylan achieving statistics comparable to Todd’s. If Dylan is walked over once a game (his current rate), then that will markedly affect his career totals of hits, RBI’s, 2B, HR, and, in my opinion, more so than the current pitching differential. However, there is no way to quantify exactly how each of those factors will effect Dylan’s final career stats. We will all make our own judgments. And to repeat, I feel Crews is well on the way to being the greatest LSU baseball player over, and if his current level of play continues the rest of the year, then I don’t think anyone would disagree, regardless of how any of us construct and compute the “Greatness equation”.
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