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re: CPM on OTB this morning
Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:17 pm to TigerLunatik
Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:17 pm to TigerLunatik
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Here's the interview if anyone wants to listen. The whole thing is 16 minutes, but the stuff that's really being discussed is about halfway into the interview.
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I just listened to the interview. For those that haven't, it wasn't NEARLY what the OP and many posters here have indicated it was.
All of my comments in this thread were under the assumption that he actually called out Doughty and Beloso. This was very mild. Mainieri has been known to be brutally honest. This wasn't one of those times.
There are 100 ways to reasonably criticize Mainieri right now. Those who have to manufacture things are pathetic.
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:20 pm to ProjectP2294
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Because of our incompetent athletic department.
Any tiny bit of success would be used to justify not going through a real search and making a lazy hire of either of the two morons currently occupying the paid assistant spots
This is retarded. I think there is zero chance of that. But, even if that weren't the case ,and you accept that it is a real possibility, why the hell would you want to get rid of Mainieri mid season?
You can't make emotional decisions. You seem emotional about this.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:23 pm to doubleb
I agree. We weren't going to get more than 1 win against Vandy, no matter what lineup was out there. Against Miss St and Tennessee, I do believe a more offensive lineup would have made a difference. Here are the scores that we lost by: 6-1, 3-0, 3-1, 9-8, & 3-2. 5 losses by an average of less than 3 runs. Did our defense save some runs? Not really, to be honest. An RBI here or there, a lead, some blood in the water...and we may be more of a 4-5 team. But, we're not.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:25 pm to lsufball19
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what would firing him mid-season accomplish
While I don’t disagree with most of your premise, in what other professions would you think it’s acceptable to allow non-performers to remain employed? Once you realize the person in the position isn’t going to remain in the position, termination should be swift. It makes clear to the rest of your employees that non-performance won’t cut it.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:25 pm to lsufball19
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Because someone should be fired in 2021 doesn't mean it was time to fire them whatever year you said he should have been fired. History shows that every coach eventually reaches the end of their ropes. That doesn't also mean that prior statements years ago are completely validated. No program in America would fire a coach that went CWS runner up, regional, super regional his past three seasons.
PM has been pulling the same bonehead moves for a decade. Just because he made the finals of the CWS and a few regionals in the past few years doesn't mean he shouldn't have done much better. He has squandered many of opportunities with some really talented teams, but y'all keep defending the idiot who has been doing the same thing for a decade. I honestly believe you could could pull a fan out the crowd and they could do as much good as PM does for LSU baseball, and the fact we are paying this bum $1 million a year is a joke.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:28 pm to tygerphan
Tenure has kept many of useless individuals employed at big companies for longer than they should have been, and employed in pretty prestigious positions, despite poor performance. It's a lot more common than you may think. I'm not saying I agree with it but it is what it is.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:34 pm to tygerphan
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in what other professions would you think it’s acceptable to allow non-performers to remain employed?
well, for one, contract employees are uniquely different from standard at-will employees, and coaching jobs are even more unique. It's a little pointless to try to compare a coaching job with any other profession. Regardless, plenty of people get their proverbial walking papers at their yearly reviews, especially those who have as much tenure as Mainieri does. In the coaching profession specifically, it is mostly SOP for coaches losing their jobs to finish out their seasons outside of mitigating circumstances, losing not being the common mitigating circumstance. Les being fired 4 games into the season wasn't exactly normal, nor did it provide any real benefit to the program or send a message to other employees how super serious we were about non-performance. In fact, it was perceived very negatively in the media, and firing a guy Paul mid-season would very well be perceived even worse than Les was.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:37 pm to TIGERSby10
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Just because he made the finals of the CWS and a few regionals in the past few years doesn't mean he shouldn't have done much better.
There's a large grey area between firing someone and someone maybe not performing better than we want when that guy's post-season success was among the best in college baseball up until this year assuming we're not making the postseason.
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He has squandered many of opportunities with some really talented teams, but y'all keep defending the idiot who has been doing the same thing for a decade
I'm not defending anyone. I think it's time for him to move on. But me thinking it's time to move on now doesn't mean it would have been the right move to fire the guy "years" ago
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I honestly believe you could could pull a fan out the crowd and they could do as much good as PM does for LSU baseball,
Well if you "honestly" believe this then you're honestly not very bright
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:52 pm to lsufball19
I think LSU sweeps this weekend
Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:53 pm to Backntheday
They do fundamentals and situations at just about every practice. You must be late getting there
Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:56 pm to ell_13
CPM = "KING OF THROWING OTHERS UNDER THE BUS"
Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:58 pm to LSU316
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What a joke the kid has the 2nd highest average on the team of anyone that has north of 10 ABs.
I mean hell when he is at the plate at least you think something good might happen....can't really say the same for guys like Thompson, Cranford, Safford, Bianco, etc.
ETA He easily leads the team in RBIs...the only one close is Dugas with 31.
Now, look at his SEC numbers
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:02 pm to TIGERSby10
Maybe all these fans that can do his job should apply. I would think he could do your job better than you could do his. Hey, maybe I’m on to something. Maybe Chicken can create a board where we can all critique and criticize each other at their jobs
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:06 pm to TigerLunatik
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It is and I think it's also unacceptable to go on the radio and say that you don't have the answers to how to get the players to hit better. That's your job and how does that make the players feel when they hear that?
That's more on Eddie and vid staff, not that PM shouldn't be highly aware of what's coming with the team hitting for shite. I really am over PM.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:07 pm to Naptime
Weren't you calling people soft earlier? Lol. Coaches being criticized by anonymous jackasses on a forum are going to be okay. So will those other anonymous jackasses that disagree with the criticism.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:08 pm to ell_13
I listened to the interview. The OP hardly reflects the tenor of it. Maybe he's auditioning for CNN.
CPM's record will speak for itself. If there's someone we can hire that gives us a better chance to win championships, then replacing CPM is an easy decision. And '09 is getting farther and farther in the rear view mirror.
CPM's record will speak for itself. If there's someone we can hire that gives us a better chance to win championships, then replacing CPM is an easy decision. And '09 is getting farther and farther in the rear view mirror.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:09 pm to moneyg
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All of my comments in this thread were under the assumption that he actually called out Doughty and Beloso. This was very mild. Mainieri has been known to be brutally honest. This wasn't one of those times.
To be real, Beloso has been the biggest disappointment on the team this year to me. Historically pretty good bat and has started a lot of games for LSU and disappeared into a black hole in this shitacular 2021 season.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:14 pm to DRock88
Yes I called people soft. And yes the coaches criticized will be fine too. The criticism crap gets old by a bunch of people that actually have no idea how to do the job. Get on board and support the team we have win or lose or don’t watch. Pretty simple.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:19 pm to ell_13
Throwing kids under the bus isn't leadership, it's desperation and petty.
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