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re: Cowan over his last 4 appearances: 1-3 with a 12.35 ERA and a 2.745 WHIP

Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:03 pm to
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:03 pm to
All you have to do is sit on his change up.. he really isn’t that hard to hit if you’re an sec baseball player
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47387 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:04 pm to
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I’m fine with being done with you because anyone defending the pitching decisions by the coaching staff in this game is just not knowledgeable on the subject matter.


Right.

The correct thing to do in your opinion was bring in worse pitchers and hope.

Like I said before, that’s genius.
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
3561 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:06 pm to
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Early season mismatches like Texas, Mississippi State, Oklahoma, Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, and Arkansas. He allowed a total of 2 runs in 24 2/3 against those teams. frick off.


Over the last 3 weeks they have figured him out
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:10 pm to
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5.1 innings pitched
11 hits
7 earned runs
2 home runs
3 walks
4 strikeouts


If this is the best we have available then we are F’d anyway…..I suspect we have pitchers pitching better lately. shite leaving Shores in was probably a better decision than bringing in Cowan. At least he was locating well.
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 10:13 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:12 pm to
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If this is the best we have available then we are F’d anyway…..I suspect we have pitchers pitching better lately. shite leaving Shores in was probably a better decision than bringing in Cowan. At least he was locating well.


Imagine how bad everyone would look if you took their worst 5 inning stretch and used it as a baseline. Cowan is struggling, that doesn’t mean he isn’t still the 4th best arm on the staff.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:15 pm to
You act like it’s a random sample from some point in the season……it is his most recent outings….literally what he has done lately.

But hell guy if you want to run a guy out there to serve up belt high flat change ups and/or throw the ball to the backstop to give up a winning run well by God I guess you really are the genius.

ETA

If your worst comes at the most important time in the season I’d suggest you don’t have what it takes to be a back end reliever.
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 10:17 pm
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:17 pm to
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literally what he has done lately.


3 innings 2 hits no runs against Arky.

Sure he struggled against the Aggies and tonight but I'd keep going back to him in crucial spots he is clealry our #2 arm behind Evans in the Pen.
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
4064 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:17 pm to
He doesn't have a real breaking ball, so teams are sitting on his changeup.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75825 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:17 pm to
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We all saw it. How the hell has our staff ignored it? Something is broken with Cowan. Fatigue or mental but it was so clear before tonight.


He literally just pitched 3 inning without an ER vs Arkansas.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47387 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:18 pm to
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You act like it’s a random sample from some point in the season……it is his most recent outings….literally what he has done lately


Yet you’re advocating for Rizy who has been just as bad in his recent outings.

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But hell guy if you want to run a guy out there to serve up belt high flat change ups and/or throw the ball to the backstop to give up a winning run well by God I guess you really are the genius.


I’m going to trust the pitcher with a 2.17 conference ERA to work through his struggles before I bring in a guy I know can’t be relied on.

But then again, I’m not a hindsight using overreactionary teenage girl.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:18 pm to
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I'd keep going back to him in crucial spots


I’m fine if he sees this role again in the SEC tourney but if he blows it there it would be indefensible to use him in that role in a regional……I mean you can’t let that send you home.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47387 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:18 pm to
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If your worst comes at the most important time in the season I’d suggest you don’t have what it takes to be a back end reliever.


We haven’t hit the most important part of the season yet you fricking waterhead.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:20 pm to
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Over the last 3 weeks they have figured him out

Last weekend he shut down the best offense in the country for 3 innings.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
58630 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:22 pm to
someone posted in another thread that Skenes in a 3 week stretch gave up 9 runs in 15 innings. a 5.4 ERA.

Skenes is the greatest to do it at LSU, if he can struggle anyone can.

Cowan is going through a struggle, you are acting like he is a horrible pitcher who we can't trust in the post season.

Also LSU has better stats than the 2023 team in terms of pitching in SEC play. I feel good about our pitching for the post season, we may not be dominate but we are better than 2023.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:27 pm to
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We haven’t hit the most important part of the season yet you fricking waterhead.


You think getting a top 8 seed and not having to play day 1 or day 2 in the SEC is important? I think both are.

After that 9th inning we don’t have any wiggle room in these next two games to assure those things happen for LSU.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:28 pm to
Skenes turned a lot of those games around on his own and allowed Tommy Tanks and Dylan Crews to get those teams back in those games. This team absolutely does not have that offense and has to lean on pitching way more than 23 did.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47387 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:30 pm to
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You think getting a top 8 seed and not having to play day 1 or day 2 in the SEC is important? I think both are.


LSU wins 1 game this series and they are a top 8 seed. Stop fricking melting.

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After that 9th inning we don’t have any wiggle room in these next two games to assure those things happen for LSU.


Have you not seen the results of Auburn (lost), Arkansas (losing) and Georgias (won) games? Again, stop fricking melting.
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 10:32 pm
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:30 pm to
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You think getting a top 8 seed and not having to play day 1 or day 2 in the SEC is important? I think both are.

After that 9th inning we don’t have any wiggle room in these next two games to assure those things happen for LSU.


SEC tournament only matters for teams on the bubble of getting to the post season, as they have a chance to win and get in. Many times the committee has mostly made up their mind by conference tourney time.

BTW we didn't start one of our best two arms tonight. If we win the next two games we are at worst tied for 3rd in the SEC. We have been pretty good in games when Anderson of AE have started.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:34 pm to
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LSU wins 1 game this series and they are a top 8 seed. Stop fricking melting.


12 loss teams have been left out before.

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You can’t say this until you see the results of Auburn, Arkansas and Georgias games. Again, stop fricking melting.


GA won….Ark losing….AU lost

Bottom line I think this team needs 19 SEC wins to clinch what we all want and not have to depend on other teams or a selection committee.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
58630 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:35 pm to
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Skenes turned a lot of those games around on his own and allowed Tommy Tanks and Dylan Crews to get those teams back in those games. This team absolutely does not have that offense and has to lean on pitching way more than 23 did.


ok the offense isn't as good, but the way this board complains about our pitching it sounds a lot like the complaints of 2023.

Also in the big park of TDA, pitching matters more than hitting. Our pitching showed up at the right time in 2023. Outside of the blowout of Florida we needed the pitching to basically win every game in Omaha. Not including the 24 we gave up to Florida we gave up 15 runs in 7 games, that is just over 2 runs a game, that includes two shutouts.
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