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Couple of thoughts on the coach search
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:03 am
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:03 am
I know for a fact that prior ADs would use coaching searches to weed out who they could trust and not trust. They would provide names and specific details to certain people and see what names or details ended up in the rumor mill.
Woody may be doing the same thing.
Also, Woody likely needs to pay respect/homage to Skip with some consideration for Bianco (if indeed Skip has asked him to look at Bianco).
Last - Past Woody hires reveal him wanting to hire a coach who has won a national title previously. That ain't Bianco, who has proven to choke consistently in the post-season.
Woody may be doing the same thing.
Also, Woody likely needs to pay respect/homage to Skip with some consideration for Bianco (if indeed Skip has asked him to look at Bianco).
Last - Past Woody hires reveal him wanting to hire a coach who has won a national title previously. That ain't Bianco, who has proven to choke consistently in the post-season.
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:05 am to Tigerstark
Thank you for regurgitating thoughts that have been posted here 850 times
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:07 am to The Pirate King
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Thank you for regurgitating thoughts that have been posted here 850 times
Why do you keep dodging my question like the little bitch you are?
With all the melting you have done on this board about multiple baseball candidates not being good enough, why is it that you constantly get on your knees to suck off Orgeron? He certainly came in with a less than impressive resume. Shouldn't you have been doing this same thing about that hire? What's different here?
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:09 am to The Pirate King
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Thank you for regurgitating thoughts that have been posted here 850 times
Some pf us have lives and dont live on tRant... I appreciated OP's takes.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:13 am to Hold That Tiger 10
It's strange that The Pirate King, Tiger Ree, and Gray Tiger, all sound like the same guy ?
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:15 am to OchoDedos
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It's strange that The Pirate King, Tiger Ree, and Gray Tiger, all sound like the same guy ?
If you ever want to get rid of him, just ask him the same question I just did. He will tuck his tail between his legs and run out, because he knows he can't defend it. He's just a hypocritical little shite stain.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:48 am to Hold That Tiger 10
Be careful attacking him, he will go to the help board and accuse you of bullying him!
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:54 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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With all the melting you have done on this board about multiple baseball candidates not being good enough, why is it that you constantly get on your knees to suck off Orgeron? He certainly came in with a less than impressive resume. Shouldn't you have been doing this same thing about that hire? What's different here?
There's a lot different, need me to list it for you?
Posted on 6/16/21 at 12:55 pm to SidewalkTiger
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There's a lot different, need me to list it for you?
Go for it. Can't wait to hear this.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:05 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Go for it. Can't wait to hear this.
1. Orgeron was garbage at Ole Miss, then was fired, then 10 years lapsed in between where it was known that he had changed somewhat.
He then had two successful stints as interim head coach where he won more games than he had as a head coach in three years at Ole Miss.
It was also shown that he could rally kids together and win games on the big stage, if he wouldn't have been the interim coach at LSU, I firmly believe he wouldn't have gotten a shot.
Bianco, on the other hand, just got bounced out of a Super Regional yet again and has shown nothing to indicate that he's any better of a coach.
2. It was known that Orgeron was a great recruiter and it was assumed that if he brought in the talent and made good assistant hires like he promised to do, then he would win.
The administration knew the lure of convincing recruits and assistants to come to LSU would be much easier than it had been for Orgeron at Ole Miss.
Bianco, on the other hand, already has the resources and recruiting to compete for national titles and has only made it to Omaha once in 21 years.
Summary: Orgeron was terrible at Ole Miss (with not as much resources) for three seasons, then proved he could win in interim roles at USC and LSU (who had much better resources than 2006 Ole Miss).
Bianco hasn't been bad, but has been pretty underwhelming at Ole Miss. He has built a great program, but has been unable to take the next step. There's nothing that LSU can give him that will make him a better coach and he won't have vastly better talent at LSU than he does at Ole Miss.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:08 pm to Tigerstark
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Last - Past Woody hires reveal him wanting to hire a coach who has won a national title previously.
This is why Brian O'Connor's name does not come up enough in the rumor mill. Former CPM assistant who has won a natty and is back in the CWS this year at an actual tough place to win in the second best baseball conference.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:13 pm to SidewalkTiger
Ok. Now point out in this thread where I mentioned Bianco at all. I never said I thought Bianco was the best hire, or that's who I wanted to be the next coach at LSU. So your entire comparison between Orgeron and Bianco is just a bunch of wasted words.
Pirate King has been shitting all over Woodward, and multiple candidates. I was not talking about one specific one.
But your post is still weak. LSU is a national power in football (just like baseball) and Orgeron was a less than stellar hire. We could have went out and found a much more accomplished head coach that had more than a few half arse interiem stints to add to his resume after a complete failure at his last head coaching gig, but we didn't.
Now the same idiots are demanding the next coaching hire has top notch credentials, that match Mainieri, whenever there are very very few that can even come close to comparing.
Pirate King has been shitting all over Woodward, and multiple candidates. I was not talking about one specific one.
But your post is still weak. LSU is a national power in football (just like baseball) and Orgeron was a less than stellar hire. We could have went out and found a much more accomplished head coach that had more than a few half arse interiem stints to add to his resume after a complete failure at his last head coaching gig, but we didn't.
Now the same idiots are demanding the next coaching hire has top notch credentials, that match Mainieri, whenever there are very very few that can even come close to comparing.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:20 pm to Tigerstark
whatever happened to the coaching changes board?
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:21 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Ok. Now point out in this thread where I mentioned Bianco at all. I never said I thought Bianco was the best hire, or that's who I wanted to be the next coach at LSU. So your entire comparison between Orgeron and Bianco is just a bunch of wasted words.
This topic was about Bianco so that's who I made the comparison to.
Frankly, I'd prefer some of the less experienced candidates over a known quantity like Bianco, I think everyone who has been floated is "qualified" enough.
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But your post is still weak. LSU is a national power in football (just like baseball) and Orgeron was a less than stellar hire.
I don't disagree that it was a less than stellar hire, however, everyone knew that O's ceiling could be very high if he hired the right assistants.
We saw 2019.
There's really no reason to be believe that Bianco's ceiling will be any higher at LSU than it was at Ole Miss.
We can't bitch about Paul going to Omaha 5 times in 15 years then hire a guy who has went once in 21 years.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:27 pm to SidewalkTiger
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This topic was about Bianco so that's who I made the comparison to.
I've been asking that retard the same question in every thread. My reply was 100% to Pirate King, and not directly related to Bianco or any coach in particular.
As far as Bianco goes, if that's who we end up with, I'll be fine. Almost anybody that's not named Paul Mainieri works for me.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:28 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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As far as Bianco goes, if that's who we end up with, I'll be fine. Almost anybody that's not named Paul Mainieri works for me.
Why would you rather Bianco over Mainieri?
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:33 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Why would you rather Bianco over Mainieri?
Because it's passed time for Mainieri to go. Some of the decisions he made this year made absolutely no sense. I don't know if he lost interest, was in too much pain, or is having some kind of other issues, but he was not the typical Paul Mainieri this year.
So at this point, almost anybody else in the dug out is going to be an upgrade.
I know, and understand, that Mainieri was a great baseball coach, and had more success than almost anybody has ever had. I don't hate him like others on here do. It was just crystal clear this year that he did not have it anymore. Just like I appreciate what Les did for LSU, I appreciate what Mainieri did, but both hung around for a bit too long.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:33 pm to Tigerstark
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Woody likely needs to pay respect/homage to Skip with some consideration for Bianco
If I am Woody, my response is that I considered Bianco for a second then decided he was not the guy to lead LSU Baseball going forward.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:36 pm to Tigerstark
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Last - Past Woody hires reveal him wanting to hire a coach who has won a national title previously. That ain't Bianco, who has proven to choke consistently in the post-season.
Everyone keeps stating this but Woody hired Peterson to Washington and Peterson did not win a national championship.
It's just anecdotal evidence but not his end all be all.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 1:43 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Because it's passed time for Mainieri to go. Some of the decisions he made this year made absolutely no sense. I don't know if he lost interest, was in too much pain, or is having some kind of other issues, but he was not the typical Paul Mainieri this year.
So at this point, almost anybody else in the dug out is going to be an upgrade.
It seems like the majority of Ole Miss fans feel the same about Bianco.
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