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re: Conservative offense in 4th is fine, but 2nd quarter?

Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:49 pm to
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:49 pm to
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You're right, I am freaking out, because I don't want to see cam bring is to a 14pt lead at half versus a team like Georgia, then Lester saying let's burn the clock, then, if Georgia comes back, us not be able to turn it back on.


Except that isn't what happened?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85598 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:49 pm to
we were up 35-14 and were still throwing it. we tried to end the game and run the clock out. after that. there really isnt even that much if a difference in play calling. better oline play and better executiin from the qb and wrs is what I see.

anytime simething doesnt work it must be Les. this game was never in doubt. it was won before the ooening kick off.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12462 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:51 pm to
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we were up 35-14 and were still throwing it. we tried to end the game and run the clock out. after that. there really isnt even that much if a difference in play calling. better oline play and better executiin from the qb and wrs is what I see. anytime simething doesnt work it must be Les. this game was never in doubt. it was won before the ooening kick off.
Man, you suck at typing, but I appreciate the fact that you actually pay attention to things rather than just post out your arse like the OP.
Posted by moreforless29
Port Allen
Member since Sep 2013
16 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:53 pm to
Lol, fish, I'm not attacking les miles, and I think everyone knows that a. Its chavis's defense and b. Les has historically been very involved in the offense
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:54 pm to
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Man, you suck at typing, but I appreciate the fact that you actually pay attention to things rather than just post out your arse like the OP.


What did the players say after the game?

WE need to execute better. WE need to finish these teams off. Zero to do with playcalls, players need to remain focused and execute. Period. This Les takes over the play calling shite is beyond ridiculous
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12462 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:56 pm to
Then bring some facts to support your crap. What was the run/pass ratio in the 2nd half and even 2nd quarter compared to the 1st quarter? If you don't already know, you shouldn't come in here claiming we started running the ball too much...I mean...that LESTER started calling run plays.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175636 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:56 pm to
LSU didn't go conservative until 6 minutes left in the 4th. Until then LSU was throwing on 1st and 2nd down. Watch the game.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12462 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:56 pm to
Whoever the frick Lester is...
Posted by moreforless29
Port Allen
Member since Sep 2013
16 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 7:59 pm to
Per the poster who broke the play calling down, I was wrong about the play calling so that's good news, but I so not see the logic in making arguments based on stereotypes of ranters or player comments.


Of anything, those comments just show how great the leadership is on the team this year. My assumption is that they would say that if we kneeled it the entire second half, because champions don't blame play calling.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12462 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:00 pm to
Why no bitching about Chavis' defense? Well into the 4th, the TOP was almost identical, and LSU punted the ball with and downed it inside the 15. Then the defense managed to give up a third and friggin 12, and AU goes down and scores. THAT'S where the issue was, except, reasonable people don't blame the coaches for the lack of execution. And don't gimme that "they were on the field too long because of Lester's offense" chit. Like I said, plays run, and also TOP, was about the same to that point. LSU went into the 4th quarter with a slight edge on TOP.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48012 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:00 pm to
No it did not. I hate our ignorant fans. If you weren't happy with our offensive ouput during the first half ,in a huge downpour, you will never be satisfied.
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 8:01 pm
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12462 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:01 pm to
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stereotypes of ranters
Nah, this thread is the EPITOME of ranter.

quote:

My assumption is that they would say that if we kneeled it the entire second half
Yeah, because that's damn near what we did, except for all that passing we did and fake FGs and chit.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94713 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:03 pm to
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It begs the question, did we lose the Clemson game just because of offense, or is there a just a strong correlation with losing momentum when trying to run out the clock?


Even back to Bama last year - went conservative at the end of both halves on defense.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12462 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:04 pm to
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went conservative at the end of both halves on defense
But everybody knows Lester doesn't touch the defense, so that's no fun to mention...facts be damned.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48012 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:07 pm to
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Look, its entirely reasonable to be suspicious after seeing a long needed offensive presence this season suddenly begin to look like years past at certain points in this game. E


So you're one of the idiots that think lsu should score on every possession. You do realize that the other team IS trying to stop us from scoring,right?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94713 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:12 pm to
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But everybody knows Lester doesn't touch the defense, so that's no fun to mention...facts be damned.



Well it's true - we roughed up Auburn on both sides of the ball for over 30 minutes (actually the 2nd QTR was pretty much a draw the defenses allowed a combined ~90 yards).

We lost the 2nd half, but only by 7 points. I don't like that we went passive, particularly on defense, but Auburn made adjustments, I give them credit for that, and their offense, although fairly well outmatched, never gave up - Gus' crazy offense can only take them so far - gimmicky offenses have a fairly short shelf life. But, I give them kudos for not giving up.

Our guys didn't either and denied that final score. We would have won the game, anyway, but I'm glad we finished strong on defense.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78168 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:13 pm to
Did you miss the torrential downpour? not the best passing weather
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12462 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:16 pm to
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Well it's true
I'm in total agreement with you. This OP blames Lester and 'his' offense for the AU 'comeback', not the defense. I just think it's funny that everyone jumps straight to Miles' controlling the offense for those instances where it's actually the defense the lets up late. Some of it execution, some of it defensive calls.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48012 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:18 pm to
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We lost the 2nd half, but only by 7 points. I don't like that we went passive, particularly on defense, but Auburn made adjustments


In the second half , Chavis went to a cover 2 or cover 3 depending on down and distance,while rotating in 2nd and 3rd teamers.
Would you rather he gone with our 1's and kept with the aggressive defense and get 2-4 more injuries to our 1st team defenders? This was a sloppy game (weather wise) and at the end of the 3rd qrt and the entire 4th qrt, the coaches chose to go with a basic defense that would allow us to get the game over with , without any major injuries. I can't understand why posters can't see that.
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 8:20 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 8:24 pm to
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but I so not see the logic in making arguments based on stereotypes of ranters or player comments.



you had clemson as a part of your argument.

We lost the Clemson game because we didn't run the ball on 2nd and 3rd and 2 on our last drive of the game
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