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Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:00 pm to Choupique19
Wow, I dont think that I could have said it better myself Choupique19. I always knew that we could not outbid Wayne Huyzinga and the Miami Dolphins to keep Saban. However, I have always wondered and will continue to question whether Skip Bertman really did everything in his power to Keep Saban. I always believed that Bertman wanted a Yes Man to himself and Saban felt that Emmert was his boss, but well said Choupique. 
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:03 pm to windhammontanatigers
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I have always wondered and will continue to question whether Skip Bertman really did everything in his power to Keep Saban. I always believed that Bertman wanted a Yes Man to himself and Saban felt that Emmert was his boss
well then it's no wonder you agree with the fabricated post. Just because you want to believe it doesn't make it true.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:05 pm to Choupique19
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LSU football with Les Miles is in the same shape as Kentucky basketball was with Tubby Smith.
This may be the best analogy I have read. Perfect!
I continue to wait for a miracle. Jerry Jones, Michigan, anybody, because you are right, Miles wins just enough to stick around.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:07 pm to Choupique19
You are absolutely right!
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:07 pm to Choupique19
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Unexplicably, when it looked like Les Miles was about to be hired away to Michigan, O'keefe and Bertman opened up the pocket book to overpay for the production that LSU had received (at that point there was no SEC title, and only a longshot chance at a national title).
That's not true.
The details of Miles contract were not finalized until after we had won the BCSCG...
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:09 pm to Stevo
It was common knowledge there was friction between Bertman and Saban regarding control. Bertman wouldn't give Saban complete control. Alabama did, and he's seems to be handling it quite well.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:11 pm to webleedpurpleandgold
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It was common knowledge there was friction between Bertman and Saban regarding control. Bertman wouldn't give Saban complete control
If by common knowledge you mean some clowns posting on the Rant, then I guess you're right.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:12 pm to Stevo
Obviously, my wondering would not make it so, but would you agree that Bertman made some pretty poor choices As AD. Promoting Laval should never have happened, Not so much the Les Miles hire, but the knee jerk reaction to promise him the kitchen sink before he had won the SEC championship and MNC, Would you not agree that he made some poor choices?
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:12 pm to Stevo
No - I mean by folks in the AD's office at the time
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:15 pm to blowmeauburn
quote:Do you realize this post might win the gold medal for dumbness?
Ahhhh what a perfect way to sum up the problem with the LSU fanbase. We are (most notably the 30+ crowd) content with mediocrity. I'll bet that most of them were so used to seeing Bama dominate us all those years that they actually felt uncomfortable being on top the past couple of years. It's all pretty simple really, hire a mediocre coach, expect mediocrity.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:15 pm to hashtag
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If you would've ranked every head coach of all 119 NCAA teams based on their records and what they have acheived, Les Miles would not have been in the top 25. I'm guessing that he probably wasn't in the top 50. He was a very average coach at OSU that had won nothing but a few "mean nothing" games against Oklahoma.
This is one of the biggest misconceptions in our entire fanbase.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:16 pm to windhammontanatigers
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Promoting Laval should never have happened,
Really? you were the one protesting this hire from day 1? Nobody was. Laval was a huge part of LSU's success when he was an asst. coach. He ran most of the practices and knew Bertman's system. Laval did very well at ULM. How can you say that the hire never should have happened? The decision was wrong, sure, but it was corrected and Skip hired a coach who ultimately got us NC.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:18 pm to Choupique19
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LSU football with Les Miles is in the same shape as Kentucky basketball was with Tubby Smith. Tubby won a national title after Rick Pitino left, and he always won just enough to keep his job. Meanwhile, Pitino came back to their big rival and started winning immediately. The two situations are very similar, and unfortunately after the Ole Miss game we are now just counting down the days until Miles loses enough that he can be replaced.
Tubby is one of the best basketball coaches in the country. His weakness was recruiting. So this is in no way comparable.
Secondly, Kentucky basketball went to straight shite after they canned him and hired a hotshot up and coming coach.
All around stupid analogy.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:25 pm to OBUDan
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Secondly, Kentucky basketball went to straight shite after they canned him and hired a hotshot up and coming coach
EXACTLY what I was thinking. For all those that want so bad for Miles to be gone.......you better be careful what you wish for.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:27 pm to LSU82BILL
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EXACTLY what I was thinking. For all those that want so bad for Miles to be gone.......you better be careful what you wish for.
I'll take Calipari.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:29 pm to Choupique19
Yeah, because Nick Sabam was a hot coach that everyone wanted in 1999. Total revisionist history. Whe he got hired, he was just some guy who couldn't beat Dinardo in a bowl game and squandered Charles Rogers' best years. It wasn't like LSU went out and hired the guy everyone wanted. He was an off the board selection. It worked out well, but to pretend that LSU made a big splashy hire of the hottest coach in the country in simply not true.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:33 pm to Baloo
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Whe he got hired, he was just some guy who couldn't beat Dinardo in a bowl game and squandered Charles Rogers' best years.
not true. Nick was widely considered to be a great defensive mind and a rising star. It caught everyone by surprise because no knew he would be willing to leave the job undone at MSU.
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:34 pm to Choupique19
quote:Yeah, he did such a great job hiring Tyrone Willingham at Univ. of Washington after TW was fired at Notre Dame.....
Mark Emmert was the chancellor at LSU. He changed the landscape of hiring college football coaches
Posted on 12/5/09 at 8:35 pm to OBUDan
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Secondly, Kentucky basketball went to straight shite after they canned him and hired a hotshot up and coming coach.
Kentucky basketball learned from Alabama football. They made a bad hire in Billy Gillepse by hiring the best "available" coach. But after the bad two years, they went and and PAID FOR THE BEST COACH. Nobody said Cailipari was available, they just went and made him an offer he couldn't refuse. Emmert stepped up and paid Saban to come here, but his successors tried to find a diamond in the rough instead of going after the best coaches and paying them to leave their school.
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