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re: COMPLIANCE: Honey Badger Clarification

Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:29 am to
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35764 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:29 am to
quote:

1. the number 7


I wonder when this guy is gonna send LSU a cease and desist notice.



ETA: Dammit Lithium.
This post was edited on 12/8/11 at 10:31 am
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:31 am to
quote:

LSU does not own the right to a number


I thought Mickey Mantle sold LSU the rights to number 7, around the time Meridith Wilson sold us the rights to "Hey Look Me Over"?
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26243 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:33 am to
quote:

So it's ok for LSU and NCAA to use a player's likeness to make money (ex. jerseys, video games, etc) but not for anyone else including the player himself ....
EXACTLY- bunch of BS.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
6004 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:36 am to
The problem is that per NCAA rules, LSU can not license anything that specifically identifies a player. So if LSU doesn't license it and you use the letters LSU, or any of the LSU logos, etc, they you are producing/selling unlicensed merchandise.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86424 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:37 am to
quote:

If you took a poll, would most fans think that it meant Tyrann Mathieu?
If you took a poll, most fans would think honey badger alone means Tyrann Mathieu.
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:39 am to
The number 7 by itself is okay to produce. You can make all of the shirts you want with a 7 on it.

However:

"Honey Badger" + "7" = "Tyrann Mathieu"

Is there anybody else that those two items reference?

If you took a poll, would most fans think that it meant Tyrann Mathieu?



In short:

(1) Honey Badger by itself is okay.

(2) The number 7 by itself is okay.

(3) Combination of Honey Badger and the number 7 is NOT okay.
Posted by TDlurker
Member since Oct 2007
690 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:39 am to
quote:

you must be a legal scholar
No, but I did stay in a residence inn at some point in the past.

In all seriousness, I've been around enough bogus legal claims & actions over the years to spot a duck when I see one. This is a power grab by LSU, and the lawyer that wrote it knows that most of the claims are bogus, but is throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks. If you wanted to spend a little money with a lawyer, they'd back down pretty fast. Of course, no TM7 t-shirt is every going to sell enough to make it worth your money to hire the lawyer to begin with. The lawyer that wrote this knows that. Tis the f-ed up legal world we live in.
Posted by LSUstudent08
Member since Feb 2007
273 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:40 am to
Nice typo- "Honey Bader"
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:42 am to
See justme's justification. I tend to trust his opinion on the matter
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86424 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:43 am to
quote:

I tend to trust his opinion on the matter
Oh yikes.
Posted by bigeztiger
Columbus Ohio
Member since Jul 2011
5092 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:44 am to
quote:

However, you CANNOT print "Honey Badger" products that include LSU or LSU player items:


I can put whatever I want on a t shirt!! Just can't sell them
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14779 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:45 am to
quote:

So it's ok for LSU and NCAA to use a player's likeness to make money (ex. jerseys, video games, etc) but not for anyone else including the player himself ....
Uh, yeah - you know that LSU makes a lot of money on football tickets but doesn't pay its players either, right?
Posted by Meaux Bettah
Tiger Nation
Member since Nov 2011
2591 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:45 am to
What about "Heisman Badger"?

Couldn't that mean Monte Ball, also?
Posted by CanShakersDecayedNut
Member since Sep 2006
3154 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:46 am to
quote:

In all seriousness, I've been around enough bogus legal claims & actions over the years to spot a duck when I see one. This is a power grab by LSU, and the lawyer that wrote it knows that most of the claims are bogus, but is throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks. If you wanted to spend a little money with a lawyer, they'd back down pretty fast. Of course, no TM7 t-shirt is every going to sell enough to make it worth your money to hire the lawyer to begin with. The lawyer that wrote this knows that. Tis the f-ed up legal world we live in.


Your fantastic legal experience aside, you completely missed the point. It has nothing to do with LICENSING. This was LSU compliance coming out and saying the sale of those T Shirts could cause trouble from a compliance standpoint.

No way LSU would be able to sell the honey badger shirts even if they wanted to license them because of the compliance issues. This isn't LSU wanting their cut. This is LSU covering their arse.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:48 am to
This one would be fine...:


...if they just removed the "TM7" from the lower left, and the "7" on the side of his face.
Posted by LSUtiger89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4537 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:51 am to
Its because likelihood of confusion that it can be associated with a particular player and be an "official LSU" likely shirt
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
6850 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:55 am to
quote:

So it's ok for LSU and NCAA to use a player's likeness to make money (ex. jerseys, video games, etc) but not for anyone else including the player himself
How is this hard to understand? What part of it doesn't make sense?
Posted by tigers225
Member since Jun 2008
294 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:56 am to
LSU also has its own unique color purple that is not allowed to use.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 11:13 am to
quote:

how you can claim a copyright issue


it's not a copyright issue or remotely related to it. LSU is not claiming rights to profit off of the name, number, etc. it's an ncaa issue and it appears that they are not allowing a player to be used to develop a brand name while an amateur. sounds like a good rule to me; the interpetation and enforcement may not be perfect but i think the rule actually protects the players and the university and the ncaa.
Posted by Brees Nuts
Member since Sep 2009
502 posts
Posted on 12/8/11 at 11:19 am to
quote:

if you're not younger than 10, who would wear any of this sh*t anyway?


GFY!

I normally wear Purple Polos...but I made a honey badger shirt and sport it from time to time and I'm 28. With that being said...Eat.A.Dick.
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