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re: Comparing Gunner Kiel to Ryan Perrilloux
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:20 am to TigerRad
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:20 am to TigerRad
Kiel from what I have learned he is a very accurate pocket passer. We don't need a running qb with all the high quality RB's. They say he has a quick release & pin point accuracy. 
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Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:22 am to tiger88
Brains = advantage kiel
Feet = advantage perrilloux
Arm = push
Feet = advantage perrilloux
Arm = push
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:24 am to slapahoe
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Ive been told reads defenses extremely well like Peyton Manning
That's also who Rivals has compared him to.
(Out of high school, of course).
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:29 am to guttata
Gk>rp as far as coming out of high school.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:29 am to landrywasbeast30
RP's physical talent level was overrated. Pretty good arm, great quickness, mediocre speed (4.8 40). What RP had in HS that made him the best was insane instincts to go with that athletic ability.
Some Louisiana people want to talk like he had cecil collins potential lost, he didn't.
Some Louisiana people want to talk like he had cecil collins potential lost, he didn't.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:29 am to dreaux
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You cannot discredit this
I'm not discrediting anything. I said it doesn't matter for this discussion because the OP specifically asked about physical talent. I think RP actually made good decisions on the field. So his off the field stuff didn't hurt his play on the field. He made some amazing throws in the SEC championship game to give the team a chance to play for a national title.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:30 am to Tigercat
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RP's physical talent level was overrated. Pretty good arm, great quickness, mediocre speed (4.8 40).
wut
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:34 am to LSUstephen17
rivals tell us that RP is dual threat. Gunner, pro style.
hopefully Gunner will have two or three years to learn/mature before he takes the field as starter. that would imply that someone else older is able to take command for a year or two. I sure hope so.
hopefully Gunner will have two or three years to learn/mature before he takes the field as starter. that would imply that someone else older is able to take command for a year or two. I sure hope so.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:34 am to Mr Hugo
Ill take brains and arm over arm and feet everyday if the week at the qb position.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:40 am to WelcomeToDeathValley
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wut
Exactly what I was thinking. I think what we have hear is some people trying to diminish RP's skills to prop up Kiel. There's no reason for that. Kiel will be great, but RP was as good of a talent at qb as has ever come out of high school. People saying RP couldn't run. People even saying Kiel has the same arm strength as RP. Scout.com lists arm strength as an area for improvement. Not saying that means he has a weak arm because he doesn't, but one guy had the strongest arm in the country and the other guy has area for improvement arm strength.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:42 am to ottothewise
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rivals tell us that RP is dual threat. Gunner, pro style.
But RP was a dual threat with a cannon for an arm and pinpoint accuracy.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:42 am to WelcomeToDeathValley
Wut what? Common knowledge that RP was slower than Flynn. He was quicker and more agile though. There is a reason that RP didnt look like the 1AA version of Vince Young at JSU, he was never a physically elite talent.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:44 am to LSUstephen17
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LSUstephen17
you're not very good at this are you?
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:45 am to Tigercat
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he was never a physically elite talent
Wut? What is happening here? People already forgot how good RP was. Matt Flynn ran a 4.4 forty?
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:45 am to Tigercat
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There is a reason that RP didnt look like the 1AA version of Vince Young at JSU, he was never a physically elite talent.
you have a point
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:48 am to landrywasbeast30
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People already forgot how good RP was.
no. RP was a high school legend. just comparing the two qb's as objectively as possible judging by watching both their high school highlight videos. Perrilloux had good "tuck it and run" speed. Kiel has a damn good arm. Go watch Kiel's senior highlight video
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:50 am to landrywasbeast30
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I'm not discrediting anything. I said it doesn't matter for this discussion because the OP specifically asked about physical talent.
We are talking about a QB, the most CEREBRAL position on a team. Mental ability = physical ability when it comes to qb. You CANNOT not include it. He is not a rb, wr. Qb is between the ears. So gtfo with that shite.
This post was edited on 12/28/11 at 9:56 am
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:52 am to landrywasbeast30
RP was never that fast, his play on the field at LSU and JSU shows that, his tryout 40s show that.
RP in HS and his talent level (and even his overall game) was closer to Tebow than Vince Young.
RP in HS and his talent level (and even his overall game) was closer to Tebow than Vince Young.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:52 am to Mr Hugo
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no. RP was a high school legend. just comparing the two qb's as objectively as possible judging by watching both their high school highlight videos. Perrilloux had good "tuck it and run" speed. Kiel has a damn good arm. Go watch Kiel's senior highlight video
Kiel ran for 400 yards and 10 td's. He is hardly a statue back there. Better yet, watch his highlights, but only watch his feet.
Makes you realize how unrefined JL is.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:54 am to dreaux
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Kiel ran for 400 yards and 10 td's. He is hardly a statue back there. Better yet, watch his highlights, but only watch his feet.
Agree
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