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re: Cole Henry not making the trip to Alabama
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:45 pm to BigEdLSU
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:45 pm to BigEdLSU
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so why do we recruit such overworked arms? I don't really agree with you about hill being an overworked arm, but for the sake of argument, lets say he was overworked coming into school.
You recruit talent and since hes had no known issues then you cant make an assumption that his usage was a problem.. Maybe it wasnt, maybe he had single incident that caused the injury, I dont know, but neither do you.. What I do know is that LSU places a premium on being cautious with young arms.
Marceaux is a prime example and we see that hes working his way back. Dunn believes in building strength in arms(reps, strength programs, etc) and some get sore but that philosophy has boded well for our staff throughout his tenure. I dont know many injuries of upperclassmen or those that have gone on to the professional ranks..
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:46 pm to lsufball19
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see this is where you refuse to acknowledge arm injuries don't happen in a matter of weeks or months.
Dude he's so dumb that he's saying we have to blame the coaches the injuries happened under for LSU, but not for Mississippi State.
Pitcher comes to LSU with injury = LSU coach's fault.
Pitcher at MSU gets injured, has surgery, coaching change happens and player sits out under new coach = new coach's fault (because that new coach was an LSU coach).
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:47 pm to BigEdLSU
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you are stating your opinion as fact.
no I'm not. That is a fact
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we get smoked several times a year by those same "scrubs"
"smoked" or lose a few games? Baseball teams play a lot of games for a reason. Those teams full of scrubs don't have sustained success year after year against top shelf talent/teams either. LSU does.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:47 pm to TROLA
to each his own, but I wonder how great you have to be really when youre coaching a guy like lange.
Marceaux is a good example... Isn't he the guy who never pitched a lot in high school? he was always on a strict pitch count wasn't he?
Marceaux is a good example... Isn't he the guy who never pitched a lot in high school? he was always on a strict pitch count wasn't he?
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:48 pm to lsufball19
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no I'm not. That is a fact
stuff you believe is called an opinion. not trying to teach you the difference but that is a fact.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:49 pm to BigEdLSU
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so why do we recruit such overworked arms? I don't really agree with you about hill being an overworked arm, but for the sake of argument, lets say he was overworked coming into school. why are we recruiting such overworked arms?
Maybe we should start recruiting out fielders to pitch
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:50 pm to BigEdLSU
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i speak out against the coaching philosophies
which coaching philosophy do you disagree with in particular? What about that philosophy is causing the abuse of pitchers’ arms?
Which coach would you hire that fits the philosophy you want?
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:50 pm to LSUJML
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Maybe we should start recruiting out fielders to pitch
youre trying to be cute, but how about we start with a few left handed guys. That is not an opinion, it is a fact that something so basic was overlooked in LSU roster management.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:52 pm to BigEdLSU
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stuff you believe is called an opinion.
prove me wrong.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:52 pm to LSUJML
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Maybe we should start recruiting out fielders to pitch
It's easier with infielders because the arm motion translates better. Outfielders with a crow hop and longer motion is harder to transition.
Carlos Martinez is a former infielder. Jacob DeGrom. Trevor Rosenthal.
On the LSU side, Nick Goody was a former JUCO shortstop like Trevor Rosenthal was. Chase Costello didn't pitch really until his senior season. He was a 2nd baseman.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:53 pm to ProjectP2294
quote:that’s a big arse second baseman
Chase Costello didn't pitch really until his senior season. He was a 2nd baseman.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:53 pm to lsufball19
you can't prove an opinion wrong.... this is a pointless argument when it devolves into 'prove my opinion wrong'....
have a nice day
have a nice day
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:53 pm to BigEdLSU
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but how about we start with a few left handed guys.
so having more left handed pitchers will reduce arm injuries? Or are you just moving the goalposts?
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:54 pm to lsufball19
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so having more left handed pitchers will reduce arm injuries?
the point is that there is more than one issue at stake here
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:54 pm to BigEdLSU
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I speak out against the coaching philosophies
which coaching philosophy do you disagree with in particular? What about that philosophy is causing the abuse of pitchers’ arms?
Which coach would you hire that fits the philosophy you want?
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:54 pm to BigEdLSU
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youre trying to be cute, but how about we start with a few left handed guys. That is not an opinion, it is a fact that something so basic was overlooked in LSU roster management.
Again, Skip Bergman has a show on Monday nights
He said “you don’t recruit right vs left, you recruit the best”
If they are all right handed pitchers but they are the best then that’s what you go with
He said he agreed with how CPM & staff recruited
Also, in your opinion, who at LSU is ruining arms?
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:55 pm to deaux
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Which coach would you hire that fits the philosophy you want?
you should coach the team deaux.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:55 pm to BigEdLSU
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you can't prove an opinion wrong
I said the vast majority of college baseball players play year round baseball. If you limit yourself to only players that didn't play year round baseball, you don't have much talent to choose from. Elite players play year round baseball, almost all of them. That is a fact, not an opinion. I'm asking you to prove me wrong that the majority of elite baseball players play year-round. You can't because I'm right. And if LSU made a decision not to recruit year round baseball, we would not be recruiting elite talent and would not be a good baseball team or program and the coaches wouldn't be doing their jobs recruiting the best players.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:56 pm to LSUJML
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who
they
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:56 pm to BigEdLSU
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the point is that there is more than one issue at stake here
no, the only issue being discussed in this thread is arm injuries
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