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re: Cole Henry not making the trip to Alabama

Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:27 pm to
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I'm blaming the kids' parents and coaches before college. Those would qualify as adults no?


everyones fault except for the coaches they were training under during the injuries they all got
Posted by LSUJML
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:28 pm to
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So let me see if I understand you.
1) PM forces Dunn to force the pitchers to throw their arms off
2) PM shows AC how to force a pitching coach to force the pitchers to throw their arms off
3) AC, thinking this is a great idea, goes to MSU, and forces the MSU pitching coach to force their pitchers to throw their arms off.
Do I have it right?


Yes
You may have missed his other glorious rants about how “they” hurt Hill teaching him a new pitch
He won’t answer who “they” are
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:28 pm to
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compared to the guys that play baseball year round, aka the travel ball stereotype, yes.



Then you’d be wrong
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:28 pm to
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I'm not rying to fit into the internet baseball clique


no shite. But that doesn't give any credence to the sincerity of your alleged concern for player safety.
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:29 pm to
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Then you’d be wrong


I'd be openminded to learning something new if you had any data from these youth arm surgeons saying they are doing tommy john on the year round 7 on 7 qbs... because youve got 15 years or so of year round play in cali and texas by now.

My understanding is it is much more taqxing on the arm to throw a baseball.
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:30 pm to
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alleged concern for player safety.


again, so? I don't care if you believe me or not. I don't need validation from this site. I care about the kids much more than the reputation of the coaches.
Posted by deaux
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:31 pm to
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I don't care if you believe me or not. I don't need validation from this site.
yes you do.
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:32 pm to
If i cared about what ya'll thought of me I would be a good little groupthinker like you deaux, trying my hardest to impress josh and adam, rushing into all of the baseball threads.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:33 pm to
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everyones fault except for the coaches they were training under during the injuries they all got

see this is where you refuse to acknowledge arm injuries don't happen in a matter of weeks or months. Arm injuries happen over years of abuse. When you have a freshman come in with an injury or get injured shortly after arriving, it is more likely the damage has been a slow burn over time and finally came to a head. Like I said, you are much more concerned with proving yourself right than actually being concerned with player safety. If you were actually concerned with player safety, you'd be voicing the same distaste for what most of these kids are put through from a very early age and not be hell bent on blaming the LSU coaching staff without doing your due diligence researching the matter.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 2:37 pm
Posted by LSUJML
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:33 pm to
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My understanding is it is much more taqxing on the arm to throw a baseball.


While you are correct this does not make your point
Not even a little bit
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:35 pm to
you guys dont even know the ppoint im making truthfully, you get all emotional like a teenager because i speak out against the coaching philosophies and cant even grasp it
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:35 pm to
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great point. Who did ole andy C coach under before going to MSU? i can't seem to remember.


Considering that 90% of the guys that were out that year were recovering from surgery they had the year before, this comment is fricking stupid and you should feel like an idiot for posting it.
what a moron
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:35 pm to
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My understanding is it is much more taqxing on the arm to throw a baseball.


Its as simple as they arent getting a rest period.. that simple.. Kid plays baseball from Jan/Feb to Aug, maybe does showcase some during fall. Starts throwing in Football during Summer, maybe plays some 7v7, plays a normal season with practice through November.. At best 1-2 months off when he needs much more with that workload
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73455 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:35 pm to
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If i cared about what ya'll thought of me I would be a good little groupthinker like you deaux, trying my hardest to impress josh and adam, rushing into all of the baseball threads.


If you didn't care what people thought, you wouldn't make a point to post in every. single. thread. whenever an injury happens to post the same. exact. nonsensical arguments.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:36 pm to
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i speak out against the coaching philosophies
which coaching philosophy do you disagree with in particular? What about that philosophy is causing the abuse of pitchers’ arms?

Which coach would you hire that fits the philosophy you want?
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 2:37 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:36 pm to
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you get all emotional like a teenager

the only emotionally charged comments are coming from you buddy
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:39 pm to
so why do we recruit such overworked arms? I don't really agree with you about hill being an overworked arm, but for the sake of argument, lets say he was overworked coming into school.

why are we recruiting such overworked arms? the only logical answer would be because they are viewed as disposable. They must be trained as if they are disposable once on campus, hence the rash of injuries we see at LSU
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:43 pm to
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so why do we recruit such overworked arms?

we recruit the best arms and it's very difficult to predict or even know just how damaged their arms are until they get hurt. Most of the elite talent in the sport played year round baseball. That's become the status quo. So if you limit yourself to trying to find guys that didn't, you're going to be fielding a team full of scrubs.
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the only logical answer would be because they are viewed as disposable.

Why do you insist on being so dramatic?
Posted by LSUJML
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:44 pm to
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you guys dont even know the ppoint im making truthfully, you get all emotional like a teenager because i speak out against the coaching philosophies and cant even grasp it


You said:
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I'd be openminded to learning something new if you had any data from these youth arm surgeons saying they are doing tommy john on the year round 7 on 7 qbs... because youve got 15 years or so of year round play in cali and texas by now.

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My understanding is it is much more taqxing on the arm to throw a baseball.


You answered your own question

Also, please elaborate on who “they” are that are “making kids arms fall off”
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:45 pm to
you are stating your opinion as fact.

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So if you limit yourself to trying to find guys that didn't, you're going to be fielding a team full of scrubs.


we get smoked several times a year by those same "scrubs"
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