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re: Coaches who were defeated by Dale Brown
Posted on 2/12/23 at 7:59 am to tigersbb
Posted on 2/12/23 at 7:59 am to tigersbb
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Guy Lewis
Dale never beat Guy Lewis, 0-3 with losses in '81-82, '83-84 and '84-85. Here are other coaches he faced multiple times and never beat:
Bobby Knight 0-3
Dean Smith 0-5
Denny Crum 0-4
Posted on 2/12/23 at 8:04 am to Domeskeller
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Dale never beat Guy Lewis, 0-3 with losses in '81-82, '83-84 and '84-85. Here are other coaches he faced multiple times and never beat:
Bobby Knight 0-3
Dean Smith 0-5
Denny Crum 0-4
I stand corrected on Guy Lewis. I thought he had beaten them prior to Phis Slamma Jama maybe in the Sugar Bowl basketball tournament?
Being ofer against the other three is no shame. He did lose close games to all three, took a half court buzzer beater for Louisville to remain undefeated against him.
Posted on 2/12/23 at 8:04 am to tigersbb
I don't understand all the trashing of Dale recently. All I'm guessing is either because of the court naming thing which was always dumb or meaningless to me anyway, or maybe because of some defense of Wade. But what I will say is if Dale is a trash coach then maybe we just need to admit we're a trash program because he's the best we got
I'll be the first to admit that Dale was never perfect and he underachieved when he got real talent in the program and it ended on a sour note with he Lester Earl thing. But he brought a lot of excitement and relevance to this program, for a long 15 year stretch I might add. If we're trying to tear Dale down then what exactly are we trying to prop up in his place?
I'll be the first to admit that Dale was never perfect and he underachieved when he got real talent in the program and it ended on a sour note with he Lester Earl thing. But he brought a lot of excitement and relevance to this program, for a long 15 year stretch I might add. If we're trying to tear Dale down then what exactly are we trying to prop up in his place?
Posted on 2/12/23 at 8:24 am to sicboy
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Les beat Saban 3 times.
Gerry DiNardo beat Saban, too.
Posted on 2/12/23 at 8:38 am to tigersbb
You have Rick Pitino, but didn’t Daddy Dale also allow Kentucky to come back from 31 down in the PMAC to win???
Posted on 2/12/23 at 9:10 am to tigersbb
What happened to Dale his last few years? Did he lose interest in recruiting, coaching?
Posted on 2/12/23 at 9:52 am to davidb104
Dale never beat coach K or Jim Boihiem
Posted on 2/12/23 at 10:05 am to tigersbb
Post his teams best outcomes compared to those coaches teams accomplishments please !
Posted on 2/12/23 at 10:07 am to tigersbb
Do the same for Ed O.
Who you beat doesn’t mean shite. You have to have the right character and career to have something named after you. Brown doesn’t have that and neither dies Gunter.
After Mulkey wins 3 titles at LSU, we will rename the court to Mulkey Court and all will be well in the world. Patience is a virtue.
Who you beat doesn’t mean shite. You have to have the right character and career to have something named after you. Brown doesn’t have that and neither dies Gunter.
After Mulkey wins 3 titles at LSU, we will rename the court to Mulkey Court and all will be well in the world. Patience is a virtue.
Posted on 2/12/23 at 10:13 am to Ampipe96
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How long would we let a football coach linger who wins 54% of his conference games and only 1 conference title?
I mean, our football program is not a complete piece of shite like our basketball program was when he took it over. There is a reason he was basically unknown and had never coached in college before LSU got him - because the program sucked and nobody cared.
He should have left a few years before he did, but he clearly elevated the program and created expectations. LSU hadn't won the SEC for a quarter of a century until Brown won his first SEC title. And even though he thought the SEC tourney was a waste of time, he still has our only SEC tourney title as well. Comparing football to basketball at LSU is comparing apples to oranges.
Posted on 2/12/23 at 10:37 am to tigersbb
This is an absolutely pathetic thread.
Posted on 2/12/23 at 10:54 am to Big EZ Tiger
It wasn’t meant as an apples to apples comparison. More of a contrast. And regardless winning 54% of the time is very mediocre. He had some of the greatest players to ever play the game and never advanced past the 2nd round.
3 conference titles in 25 years is excellence?
He’s not in the basketball hall of fame, because the results were average.
3 conference titles in 25 years is excellence?
He’s not in the basketball hall of fame, because the results were average.
Posted on 2/12/23 at 11:14 am to tigersbb
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the Lester Earl imbroglio.
You say this dismissively like it was some unavoidable act of God when in fact it was one of the most stupid displays of hubris in sports history. Yeah, he built the program. And then he single-handedly destroyed it. That makes his legacy as a coach a push. At the point when he left I was still somewhat fond of him due to the exciting moments he produced prior to his well deserved downfall but his legacy as a former coach is beyond reprehensible. Let Dick Vitale name his next box of Depends after Dale. That would be fitting.
Posted on 2/12/23 at 11:28 am to Ampipe96
My issue is Dale Brown was in charge during the Lester Earl crap, completely crippling the program for years.
And my mind still can't fathom having Chris Jackson, Shaq, & Stanley Roberts but couldn't get past the 2nd round of the tournament.
And my mind still can't fathom having Chris Jackson, Shaq, & Stanley Roberts but couldn't get past the 2nd round of the tournament.
Posted on 2/12/23 at 12:29 pm to Ampipe96
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It wasn’t meant as an apples to apples comparison. More of a contrast. And regardless winning 54% of the time is very mediocre. He had some of the greatest players to ever play the game and never advanced past the 2nd round.
3 conference titles in 25 years is excellence?
He’s not in the basketball hall of fame, because the results were average.
He is in the National Collegiate Basketball Hall of Fame.
He had 4 regular season SEC titles. For a better comparison, LSU only had 3 SEC titles in their entire history before Brown took over. So yes, for LSU, 4 SEC titles in 25 years was excellent. And sadly, he also has LSU's only SEC tournament title ever.
No doubt, he underachieved the year with Shaq and CJ on the same team and some other years. But he also overachieved a number of years and still has one of the longest NCAA tournament streaks of all time making 10 NCAA tournaments in a row. Before Brown, LSU's basketball program sucked terribly. He took LSU to 13 NCAA tournaments. He wasn't the best Xs and Os coach, but he totally elevated the program into something that had a lot of success and excitement following a long period of straight-up losing.
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:30 pm to davidb104
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What happened to Dale his last few years? Did he lose interest in recruiting, coaching?
Not at all. He recruited the best player in the country Randy Livingston and a 5 star shooting guard Ronnie Henderson and was poised to continue the run until Livingston blew out his knee jumping over a folding chair to dunk during a summer camp in 1993 and was lost for the 1993-1994 year. The next year they started out 3-0 in the SEC with Randy playing superman at the end of each game. Then he blew out his knee again and another season ended poorly despite Henderson's stellar play.
Randy went to the NBA despite his knee issues but there was still promise in 1996 with Lester Earl and Cory Powell arriving from Glen Oaks and Deuce Ford transferring from Memphis State. Then at a holiday tournament in Hawaii good ole Roy Williams nefariously coerced Lester Earl into transferring. to Kansas , Cory Powell became academically ineligible and Deuce Ford blew out his knee and another season went down in flames. The Dale Brown era was essentially over at that point, but what an incredible climb to the top it had been for 15 years. Dale took one last lap around the league in 1997 and was honored at every stop, even at Kentucky. They returned the jacket he had thrown onto center court in his early years when he thought officials were allowing the Wildcats to bully his team and the league.
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