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re: Coach O Statement Koy Moore
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:34 am to Legion of Doom
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:34 am to Legion of Doom
Of course he didn't write the statement himself. He would be in big trouble if he had released a statement without it passing through the proper channels first.
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:41 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Black people are treated as if they are guilty of a crime by the police immediately. White people are not.
That sounds bad and not fair. What are the statistics on this?
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:46 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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As much as the dumb people involved try to focus on criminals getting shot for resisting arrest, what allegedly happened to Moore is the real issue. Black people are treated as if they are guilty of a crime by the police immediately. White people are not.
I think more people would back efforts to fix this if things were put into perspective like you have. That is assuming that there is a systemic problem (your last two sentences). What's difficult though is pinpointing the root cause and addressing it. It's not as simple as just saying "this is racism...stop being racist" and the problem is solved. I don't know what the solution is but I know it's not defunding the police.
This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 10:48 am
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:48 am to Billder
They unfortunately don’t keep statistics on unlawful stop and searches that don’t turn into an arrest.
But the fact that every black person you have ever met has a story of a time when they were berated by police or followed around the mall by security or something similar is the proof.
Also there are real statistics that show that black people are much more likely to be punished to the full extent of the law while white people are much more likely to be given a punishment on the lesser end of the spectrum for drug related crimes. I’m not going to do your HW for you cuz you won’t accept the statistics even if I present them so you can look it up yourself if you care to.
But the fact that every black person you have ever met has a story of a time when they were berated by police or followed around the mall by security or something similar is the proof.
Also there are real statistics that show that black people are much more likely to be punished to the full extent of the law while white people are much more likely to be given a punishment on the lesser end of the spectrum for drug related crimes. I’m not going to do your HW for you cuz you won’t accept the statistics even if I present them so you can look it up yourself if you care to.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:48 am to viv1d
I haven't read anything that leads me to believe the police did anything wrong. It sounds like a football player that is used to being coddled and getting his way is angry about having to obey police officers.
I support the police 100%. They have the toughest job in America and I appreciate what they do for our communities. I see no proof of any wrong doing by the police and until I do, Geaux Blue!
I support the police 100%. They have the toughest job in America and I appreciate what they do for our communities. I see no proof of any wrong doing by the police and until I do, Geaux Blue!
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:51 am to SUB
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What's difficult though is pinpointing the root cause and addressing it. It's not as simple as just saying "this is racism...stop being racist"
I completely agree. The cops treat black people with hostility cuz black people treat cops with hostility which is a cycle that keeps going on and on and on and on.
I have no clue how to stop it. If you ask the cops to be the first ones to play nice then it’s likely that some good men will die in the process. And the black community won’t be the first to play nice cuz they feel like their lives are already in danger and playing nice would be accepting that they will get treated unfairly.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:54 am to Billder
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Why is Coach O assuming racism is involved? Did I miss something?
You're saying if Moore were white the cops still would've drawn weapons, and demanded to know where his gun and drugs were? Seriously?
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:55 am to Billder
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Black people are treated as if they are guilty of a crime by the police immediately. White people are not.
That sounds bad and not fair. What are the statistics on this?
There’s overwhelming evidence that the criminal justice system is racist. Here’s the proof. LINK
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This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 10:57 am
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:58 am to MLCLyons
Depending on the crime being investigated then police would have absolutely done that to Moore if he were white. Why would they not be concerned about a white person who potentially has a gun? Police aren’t going to just approach it differently and assume a white person isn’t going to kill them since white people kill police also.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:59 am to GoneFishing21
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Depending on the crime being investigated
what crime did Moore commit?
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:01 am to justustm2
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There’s overwhelming evidence that the criminal justice system is racist. Here’s the proof.
Sorry guy. That’s not proof of anything. It gives zero context into how police came into contact with these people where drugs were ultimately found. Statistics by themselves don’t mean anything
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:02 am to MLCLyons
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what crime did Moore commit?
Not sure where you got this from? I said depending on the crime being investigated. I never said Moore committed a crime. Back to your original argument. Yes, police draw their weapons on white people too. That’s why they shoot more white people than black people. Kind of hard to do that if their gun is in the holster, right?
This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 11:05 am
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:05 am to Billder
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That sounds bad and not fair. What are the statistics on this?
Do you think the cops keep numbers for every person they stop and don’t arrest?
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:06 am to GoneFishing21
That’s great for police power but shite for all of us walking around who happen to match a description that often is just race, gender and an age bracket
This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 11:07 am
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:06 am to SammyTiger
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o you think the cops keep numbers for every person they stop and don’t arrest?
Not all places do, but more and more police departments are keeping those very statistics now
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:09 am to GoneFishing21
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That’s not proof of anything.
Blind willfully remain blind. How many times has a cop stopped you just to see what you were up to? How many times has a cop pointed his weapon at you?
For white people the answer to both questions is more than likely zero.
For black people the answer to both is more than likely not zero.
Saying that this occurrence is due to anything other than a systemic issue between cops and the black community is equal to saying that all the 6.5M people who voted for trump are racist.
The stats show that the courts are more lenient on white people. There’s no evidence that you can show that disprove these stats.
Also I’m white and voted for trump so save me the SJW BS.
Also I HATE that BLM turned from “stop police from mistreating black people” (which is a real issue IMO) to “black people shouldn’t be punished for breaking the law.”
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:10 am to SammyTiger
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That’s great for police power but shite for all of us walking around who happen to match a description that often is just race, gender and an age bracket
Investigating a crime and finding a potential suspect is all about power to you, huh? I’m sure the victims of crimes are thankful when police catch the criminal and they are able to be held accountable. If you can’t take being stopped at some point in your life then change where you hang out or hide in your basement. You’re being dramatic over possibly being inconvenienced for a few minutes while police eliminate you as a suspect. Get over it.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:10 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Black people are treated as if they are guilty of a crime by the police immediately. White people are not.
You are doing to police officers exactly what you are accusing them of
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:12 am to Gulf Coast Tiger
Nope cuz if the officers were in the right, Moore would have been arrested.
If you point a gun at someone, they better be doing something arrest worthy.
If you point a gun at someone, they better be doing something arrest worthy.
This post was edited on 11/9/20 at 11:13 am
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:13 am to justustm2
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There’s overwhelming evidence that the criminal justice system is racist. Here’s the proof.
and a lot of minorities voted for the people who wrote a racist law and one who unfairly enforced it expecting them to write the wrongs they committed
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